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[–] flandish@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

the current history of this war has shown that promises are largely false. except the promise of profit. profit always wins in wars.

[–] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

But often also those who fight for their survival survive and are so happy that they are still living, that profit is less important for them.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

sure. i mean that applies to all facets of life these days sadly.

i just dont “believe” anything about war except profit.

[–] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] flandish@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

working class people and the status of their survival, during war, is largely dismissed by the owning class that is profiting off of said war.

[–] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

So they shouldn't fight for their survival, because someone is profiting?

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

when did you think i meant that?

[–] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know what you're trying to say, but pointing out that some people profit from war doesn't change the fact that many people fight because they want to survive and that they have a legitimate reason to fight and they should do everything to survive.

Saying that war is about profit is also a superficial statement that doesn't mean anything. You can make everything about profit. Was this war about profit? I think you will find most wars aren't.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

most wars arent? you’re kidding right? iraq, iraq, afghanistan, vietnam, korea… ok so maybe i mean the US,UK, Israel involvement is always about profit.

And look the US is involved in the war between ukraine and russia, no?

there is always profit. while working class people die. convinced they are being helped. defending themselves.

i wish them the best, of course, but there is no denying it that there is nothing but profit to be had when wars like this have folks like the us convinced they need to help.

what i am trying to say is that russia will keep going as long as it can, and the us and others will keep pretending to help ukraine until the profit runs out. then more people will die. we can only hope russia will give up first.

[–] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

There is profit in everything every day. That doesn't mean the profit is the driving force.

Ukraine needs to fight to survive. Eu is helping a lot. Not pretending. But giving it means to defend itself. Ukraine has developed it's arms industry and eu is helping with their budget. There is no pretending. It a complicated international situation, but eu doesn't profit, Ukraine doesn't profit, Russia doesn't profit. The only one profiting is the us and nobody is saying they aren't happy with it, but saying they did the whole war is really stupid.