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Hello, my friend. Thanks so much for your reply. Well, what if it's not a literal place but allegorical?
If you'd asked me this before I went on my wandering search, I'd obviously chosen Paradise without merit. As it is I have studied many faiths and noticed common threads.
Then what have I learned, to have reward without merit? Immense heat and pressure are the conditions that purify. Gasses condense and vomit forth universes, carbon births diamonds, ore becomes steel, precious metals can be wrought. And extremely personality disordered individuals
Reward without merit can give us at best, extremely self-entitled people who "fail up," and extremely personality individuals.
So maybe like steel being purified and forged, then cooled or gems being formed, cut, tumbled, there are precise amounts of pressure and heat.
I get the point, nonetheless. I really need to study the surahs in depth, but I clearly don't know Aramaic. Can you point me toward some online English translations of the Quran, so I can study more? I'll leave Rumi aside, for the moment.
It's always a pleasure to find you here! Personally, I think it's as real as this world is, but what do I know, lol. And I'm certain that God will adjust for mental disorders, after all there's an "us" underneath the mental deformation resulting from trauma, the "us" that regrets our negative actions stemming from these issues in our moments of clarity (or not, hence Hell).
I'm very excited to hear you're interested in the Qur'an, for whatever reasons, and thankfully I think the Qur'an is very straightforward, not much to really "study" there, it's not a somewhat philosophically dense read a la Ecclesiastes, for instance. I like "Quran: A Monotheist Translation", since it's not influenced by Hadith literature (most of the morally questionable "Muslim" beliefs derive from it, not the Qur'an) and it's unburned of sectarian doctrines, it's quite literal (slightly more open for interpretation, which can pose its own problems, but at least it's not a mistranslation) and says God instead of Allah (I feel like it takes any Western/English-speaking person "out of it", it creates distance when reading an English translation). And Rumi is wonderful, a great poet inspired by his love of God and his gratefulness for life.
The English Qur'an translation as an app for Android (there should be one for iOS too): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.freeminds.quranapp
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Thank you. I find your company pleasing, as well.
Imo, metaphor, allusion, allegory, etc. are figurative speech that do describe something very real, but not always comprehensible with our physical senses. For example, I can't see air, but I breathe it. I can't literally touch love, but I can feel it! Are these things not real?
Thanks also for the share. On the chance the app has intrusive permissions, is there a web version?
Salam my sibling, to you and yours! Blessings of every sort.
Those things are real. And our world (in my understanding) is like the Matrix to God, who's to say we couldn't inhabit a Hell as real as this world, right? Regardless, though, it's a circumstance we'd rather avoid, lol. We are/can be better than that!
And yes, I found an Internet archive link to it: https://archive.org/details/the-great-quran/page/n28/mode/1up π
Hmm. We seem to have different views and how can I answer without studying the material, in depth?
Thank you for the link. I've got homework to do, so I'd best get to it. I'm sure I'll be asking plenty of questions.