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[โ€“] Uruanna@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Then, you slide in with "I donโ€™t understand why you think it should be more expensive if itโ€™s locally made.", and I genuinely don't know where you got that from.

You literally said it was "worse" that they're willing to pay, but not more, for a local version?? That is a judgement call you made about the people's answer, those fabulous 33%, the weirdos who "can't be bothered enough to be willing to pay for it." If "not paying more" is worse, then how are you not, in fact, saying that they should be paying more??

Well, my French may be exceedingly rusty, but the thing I'd read here is that "surcout", "plus cher", and "basculer vers un fournisseur" all refer to the 49% who would pay. The 83% response is to the question about the EU.

I still don't understand what you're reading wrong here. 100% of the people they asked are paying something, they're all using the EU's services, which is currently not deGAAFed enough. 49 of them are ready to pay more if the EU goes local. The other 51 are not ready to pay more for the EU services they already pay. Everyone has a fournisseur / provider, everyone uses EU services, everyone pays for them. 83% of all the people they asked think it should be local, and 49% of all the same people would pay more to make it happen.

Does it help in any way if I point out that there was a stink up not long ago about French health services storing data on Microsoft clouds? About the DGSI (national security stuff) having a contract with Palantir ? (which they dropped fortunately) Google, Microsoft, Amazon, are everywhere, in France, in the EU - in things that we pay for right now, through taxes for France and for the EU, and then there's the other stuff like Internet providers that we individually pay for, some of whom do or did use stuff like Amazon's services. And the general sentiment is that they should fuck off, and half of the people would be willing to pay more. This is what it's about.

[โ€“] Aqarius@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

You literally said it was โ€œworseโ€ that theyโ€™re willing to pay, but not more, for a local version?? That is a judgement call you made about the peopleโ€™s answer, those fabulous 33%, [..]

Correct. Making the leap from "free" to "paid" is a big one, mentally. A stance of "I would like an EU service, but not enough to go through the hassle of actually setting up a paid tier of service" is a lot easier to understand than "I already pay the Yanks, and would like an EU service, but I just don't wanna spend any additional money.

weirdos who โ€œcanโ€™t be bothered enough to be willing to pay for it.โ€

Ah, no, not "can't be bothered" - "theyโ€™re not bothered enough". They are bothered, as in, it upsets them that the service is foreign, but not enough to get them to do something about it. And I'm not saying they should pay more. I just think it's funny that they aren't willing to, especially what's explicitly a "nominal surcharge". Kinda how when everyone says they want to eat healthy, and then keep eating pizza.

100% of the people they asked are paying something, theyโ€™re all using the EUโ€™s services, which is currently not deGAAFed enough.

Aaah, you're talking about paying taxes for government services. Now you're making sense.