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what's a good phone? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by blinfabian@feddit.nl to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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Hey there! i currently have a Samsung Galaxy A55 and i want to try one of the privacy focused phones. But idk which is the best i could try.

My findings:

Fairphone with /e/OS, but ive heard /e/OS is apparantly not that secure.
Google Pixel with GrapheneOS, but with this one I still need to buy from Google.
Linux phones, but I'm concerend they dont support all the apps i want to use.

that being said, can you use MicroG instead of Google Services for ALL apps? or does it only work for things like Revanced?

edit:

i also use a Samsung smartwatch with Google Wallet so would this still be possible with an alternate OS?

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[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 28 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Fairphone with /e/OS, but ive heard /e/OS is apparantly not that secure.

e/OS is privacy focused, not security focused

https://community.e.foundation/t/some-clarification-regarding-security-vs-privacy-in-e-os/51839

Google Pixel with GrapheneOS, but with this one I still need to buy from Google.

A simple solution here to avoid feeding the monster would be to buy a Pixel second hand

Linux phones, but I’m concerend they dont support all the apps i want to use.

I think you're right to be concerned, I wouldn't recommend using a Linux phone as a primary device just yet. By all means try it out on a secondary phone though!

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If Google manages to win their recent developer registration, forking AOSP and making lineage and graphene, operating systems in their own right, or using Linux mobile, may be about the only options, either that or go back to desktop and declare mobile as a failure.

[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, PostmarketOS still has some broken features when looking at FairPhone4 and SailfishOS doesn't fully support Sony Xperia 10 IV yet (both phones I own) but when either get's a bit better supported I will try them out.

Banking apps in Sweden and more specifically the Mobile "BankID" are big fans of Google Play Integrity services though and the BankID is used to identify yourself at a huge amount of services making it hard to live without so I've pretty much accepted I will have to use two phones in the future - one for Work+Banking and one for the rest.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 months ago

I bank on Monero

[–] bluemoon@piefed.social 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

order one of their physical devices with buttons. enables you to bank and buy. gotta hassle customer service a bit. depends on who you get answering. i say i get banned from BankID for using an open source os on a whole phone. that im not buying a new for i k... becausw this one can watch uoutube, sms, call, browse internet.... but BankID REFUSES ME CITIZENSHIP. unless i pay however many thousands on a new phone every year. so i got a physical device sent out. it scans and gives a code. "bankdosa." i add it has Android (whatever version) while last supported is 6 (way below, number small)

[–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Not sure what you're quoting but in Sweden the Mobile BankID is used as a digital ID on company sites and apps too, so even with a physical bank security device that gives you access to your bank website you're still locked out of a lot of services in Sweden.

[–] bluemoon@piefed.social 1 points 3 months ago

yes without BankID alot of services are unaccessible. atleast internet purchases are possible with a physical device the swedish banks hand out. used to be cardreaders, now just a device scanning a QR code then prompts a personal code and returns a code.

[–] bluemoon@piefed.social 1 points 3 months ago

idk why it turnt into a quote, sorry. am having some lag and formating issues with the blorb client to piefed.