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Selfhosted & AI (anarchist.nexus)

submitted 20 hours ago by curbstickle@anarchist.nexus to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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Yup, I'm posting another this week. Sorry.

This week I'm hoping we can wrangle a solution around AI and our selfhosted community. There are plenty of strong opinions (both pro and con), but one thing is for certain - there needs to be better disclosure in promo posts. Two options (that aren't mutually exclusive):

Any posts of an AI focused, AI Developed, etc software gets an [AI] tag. No, a [Not-AI] tag is not needed to accomplish this, thats kind of a "non-golfer" sort of tag.
Comment requiring an AI disclosure response to every promo post, if its not detailed in the post itself. Specifics (generating docs for commands, translation, whole-boat vibe-coded this app, etc) would be requested.

I will say that having disclosure and/or tagging would mean that comments that just say "slop" or "fuck ai" or whatever would be off topic at that point, that information is already provided, so its just noise (and sometimes pretty uncivil - I've been light on that for now due to the need for a rule on this).

The tag [AI] would make it easy to filter out (or search for, if that's your thing), but there is a wildly different degree of AI use out there, and from the posts with a positive score, its usually due to responsible AI use (translations, a snippet they had to do something obscure with, available to use with AI but doesn't require it, whatever), which is why I think the disclosure has a place as a benefit to everyone.

Please provide any input or alternative options on this, and I can then put it to a vote like the last one. Comments seem to be the best approach without involving something off-site, but if you have a better idea/option, please share.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

TBD indeed. But it will effectively 'downrank' posts and their visibility, maybe into the negative vote range. I've seen highly negative scores across the board in more machine-learning focused subs, and that's without a tag that catches the eye so easily.

I think even modifying the acronym could make a difference, though (as I ninja edited).

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 3 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I do like the idea of a different tag, still easy to filter but less of a target like the ai generated communities out there.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

For what it's worth, I asked my self-hosted LLM (MiMo 2.5, no network access outside my desktop), and it came with [AIT] (AI-Topic).

...I think that's my favorite so far. [AIP] would work too.

I feel like that "obfuscates" the tag enough to blunt impulse downvotes in /new and feeds, without being deceptive or anything.

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Actually both are pretty good - AIT for it as a more discussion oriented, AIP for a project post.

I like it, I think something like that would be a great idea

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Oh, both! Yeah. I didn't even think of that, but [AIT]/[AIP] as separate tags makes a lot of sense.

I'd like being able to filter by either, actually.

I guess two tags runs the risk of "rules too complex for some to follow," but that's more of a moderation load question. I have no say in that, heh.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

Yeah. Just not sure what it should be, heh.

I will say, if it still has "AI" in the tag (like [LAI] or whatever), it would play nicer with keyword filters.