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Has anyone said they don't want people in Tibet to have access to modern technology? That strikes me as a very very odd claim.
Tankies are very very odd people.
I guess it must be a talking point that the CCP or it's supporters use to justify their activity in tibet - "we're just spreading technology. You don't want us to be there? Then you must be luddite regressives who HATE the Tibetans"
I'm not sure on the tibet part specifically, but I've definitely heard people express environmental concerns relating to China or African nations going through industrial growth or milestones that the US and European nations went through already.
Which isn't wrong, since those milestones are what caused the ecological problems we have in the first place. It's just not going to sit well if someone says not to do what they did, and instead just buy the next iteration and be dependent.
The line between "destroying culturally significant traditions" and "but it's my house and I want better plumbing" is fuzzy.
it's looking more likely that enormous parts of africa and southern asia will go solar / battery before the grid even gets there.
https://www.forbesafrica.com/current-affairs/2026/02/23/africas-solar-sector-posts-record-growth-new-investment-in-distribution-and-transmission-needed
https://www.pv-magazine.com/2026/01/14/india-deploys-37-9-gw-of-solar-in-2025/
https://www.transitionzero.org/shedding-light-on-pakistans-distributed-solar-revolution
indirectly and profitably, china is going to help enormous numbers of people jump from nothing to an electrified society without millions of miles of transmission, with renewable generation to boot.
we live in strange times. I wish china would abandon taiwan (a fight that'll draw in most of the south pacific) and focus on this amazing thing, but meh... wish in one hand, shit in the other, see which fills up first.
Oh, totally. And it would be fantastic if they found a way to get modernized infrastructure without making our mess worse. But a lot of that solar growth is beholden to external investors, either private equity or governments like China.
Everyone wants to do some resource exploitation in Africa, and China is no exception. Just because they have a stance of indignation over "don't do X, buy Y from me instead" doesn't mean they won't do the exact same thing with their Y.