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[–] catonion@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Same here, it sucks. So I understand where you're coming from. Are you interested about learning about Islam? I'm just saying, because you mentioned it, do you have family from your father's side that isn't catholic? Maybe you can begin your search there, ofc this in context of assuming you are interested in the first place.

Ty for sharing with me, I have the catholic guilt still attached deep within my bones too. I'm happy in the sense that you could pinpoint part of what worsens your OCD, the ERP will def help with alleviating symptoms. It's gonna work out, I know it will, comrade. You can rest and you can breathe in safety now.

[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have read the Qur'an but not the hadiths except maybe a few excerpts.

Also, my dad is literally a Kemalist and hates any Syrian, Qatari, Saudi, Lebanese, Omani, UAE, etc. immigrants to TΓΌrkiye.

He is not Catholic lol he is actually pretty atheist last I checked, even if the Ottoman aristocratic nobility that he ultimately hails from (no, I shit you not about that part lol) had at least ostensibly Muslim adherents.

My Mom is Catholic. She is Dominican. My family treats her like shit. πŸ’€πŸ’€

Also, I only really "like" (or I guess am somewhat interested in again now) Catholicism due to Pope Frank and now Pope Leo (especially with what he wrote recently)... but honestly? Most Catholics, especially the born-again variety like J. D. Vance, really suck. Tbh, I did really like the baroque stuff and other aesthetics of Catholicism throughout the centuries... but that's because Protestant churches are so drab in comparison.

Also, Protestant churches have a big problem with not only pedophilia and sex pestery like the Catholic Church but also millennarianism too and other really bad apocalyptic belief systems, especially nowadays.

Tbh, I don't know what to think about the Catholic Church at this point, but honestly, I look at the Unitarian Universalist church near me and have even thought about attending some events to see what social clubs they have (which I feel like I should at le4do since I may never come back to Virginia).

They also tend to be leftwing or even kinda leftist depending on the area.

And I kinda think "Damn, kinda wish most churches were a bit more like that one."

But honestly, I am really anti-religion at this point.

I might actually prefer Khruschev's policy towards religion over Stalin's ngl 😭😭

And the religious trauma I experienced back in around 2013 or 2014 DURING EXAM WEEK MIND YOU honestly fucked me up more than even I seem to really know.

Filled me with dread, anxiety, raw fear, panic, etc.

Anyway...

I guess I should also say that my Mom is also kind-of a "New Age-y" lapsed Catholic and literally loves the Cathars lol

Ahhhh...

Yes...

Those damn Cathars...

At first, when you read about them in some history book, you're kinda like "Oh, very cool"

Then one of your friends, your Mom, someone you know, etc. can't shut up about them and you're all like:

"Girl, we don't even know that much about them!!" 😭😭

[–] catonion@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

im just an atheist pagan now. the contradiction serves a purpose.

have you considered uuuuuuh, not needing a church?

[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yeah, i heard about atheist pagans

I am deeply interested in paganism now

especially since paganism never really dissappeared from 19th century or even 20th century Europe at all.

It's still there.

The Druidic order in England seems interesting

But honestly, the Turkish groups kinda fascinate me

That said

I agree on the church bit

but I do kinda want a "religion" or "spirituality" or whatever the fuck we call it now

just to experiment

nothing more

[–] catonion@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

then u have a whole spectrum to research from, considering where you're from, where your mom is from, your roots wat you're looking to experiment with, what you "want/need" out of the practice, if u want community or doing your spirit work on ur own, etc i refuse to influence u, u gotta do the research urself, be wary of cults, use the marxist framework of "who benefits from this?" and does it align w ur marxism, stuff like that. i dont mix my knowledge on marxism w my spirituality just an fyi, i mean, could i? sure but there's alot of baggage around why i practice what i practice which uuuuh idk might be a liability to the path.

edit: wait actually, the marxist-leninist framework deeply influences my spiritual practices, not the other way around....so maybe...not a liability? who knows.

[–] Makan@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Oh kewl

Yeah, definitely be wary of cults, especially now.

Oh, and what is "spirit work"?

[–] catonion@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

spiritual rituals tied to my practice <3