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Ok I mean I am somewhat familiar with Marxism, I mean that just happens by existing on this instance. I do consider myself a Marxist and I like bringing up Xinjinag because I have done a lot of personal research into it. Although I don't know much about how Marxists describe or define alienation, I just use it as a convenient way to describe why I think people act in certain ways.
That's an interesting thought. If I'm being honest I have no idea how much people's "nature" differs from person to person. My brain has kind of made the irrational decision to pretend nature doesn't exist and everyone is born the same because it's so much easier to think of things that way. And regardless you still can't blame someone for their nature either can you?
It's funny how my argument has just turned into asking questions but I would be grateful if you had some thoughts on this.
I think the nuance is that you can't blame someone for their nature, but that you can hold them accountable for how they choose to act in response, because for practical rather than philosophical reasons I do believe in agency. Otherwise everything is predetermined and there's no point in contemplating anything.
Then even our exchange on this app becomes absurd, which again I have no problem with philosophically, but isn't very practical. Everything hinges on us entertaining agency.
Let's bring this back, while you can hold someone accountable for their actions you can't blame people for their nature or the way they have been nurtured.
In this case why should anyone be sent to prison for life? Regardless of their crime. This form of punishment isn't "love" or hoping they will learn from their mistakes. It's just a final fuck you for doing something they can't even be blamed for. When there is still a possible oppotunity for them to recognise the harm of their actions and become normal people again, I think it would be worth trying.
Well, that's why I emphasized holding them accountable for their actions rather than their nature, because their nature can't be changed or at least not to my knowledge, but I do believe they have agency over their actions. You however don't seem to make that distinction at all.
Do you believe some people are naturally horrible people and will never be able to fit into society?
Yes, and it's expressed in their actions that we ought to hold them accountable for. Simply being horrible is of course not a good enough basis to lock them up or what have you.
I think we should close this off now, my vibes tell me your wrong but I don't have any evidence to back up my opinion. If you have any evidence to back yourself up then I would like to hear it otherwise I don't know if we have a basis for conversation.
Thanks for expressing your opinion.
Sure thing I suppose