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[–] Glitchvid@lemmy.world 22 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (9 children)

Can just use avif instead, it holds an AV1 stream and acts like gifs/images do WRT looping — also very broad support (more than AV1 in WebM containers).

Demonstration:

Image

Edit: switched to an example with simpler decode requirements.

[–] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 minutes ago

an Osman classic

[–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 hours ago

Works great as a static image. Would probably be better if it actually played...

[–] yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 hours ago

It's unfortunately not that simple. The AVIF doesn't load at Jerboa, for example :/

[–] toothbrush@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Your demonstration is a sluggishly loading static image on my end, so I guess support isnt that widespread :P

(Im using the app "Summit")

[–] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

Static image, Eternity.

[–] Glitchvid@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I checked that app's source code, and basically they're doing their own avif decode call instead of relying on a browser/webview to handle it. So essentially they forgot/don't know/don't intend to implement animated avif. Looks like they also use the aom reference decoder instead of using something faster like dav1d.

Static image, also Summit.

[–] username@piefed.zip 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Boost for Lemmy is not a fan.

[–] Glitchvid@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

That's caused by bad regex in the app, it's getting confused about domains.

e: fixed by using an aliased domain.

[–] ink@sh.itjust.works 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

(on Arctic on ios) the uploaded image displays as a static image for me. Even clicking on it and waiting, it doesn’t seem to animate :T

Edit: I checked again through the Voyager app, and it did indeed load, though it took around 45-60 seconds* for it to get through the entire animation before it started looping again, albeit at the same speed as the first playthrough.

I chalked it up to the outdated hardware, as you mentioned in your reply. Cheers! :)

[–] Glitchvid@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (3 children)

Apple has limited support for AV1 streams (yes, even for software decode) unless on very recent hardware. Here's an AV1 stream inside a webm container for comparison, would be interesting to see if that works over the avif container on your stack.

Image

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

This doesn't work for me but the original one you posted does (Voyager, iPhone 14 pro)

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

Random Android phone on Voyager; yes.

[–] ink@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Ah yeah, that would explain it - my phone is now pretty outdated (I’m on a 12) - I clicked on the image link in your response but it didn’t load for me, unfortunately.

I’m not sure if that’s a result of my outdated hardware or if I perhaps clicked on it before it had a chance to process your upload, but you seem much more knowledgeable than I, so I’m going to assume it’s my hardware. I appreciate the response and the second attempt, though! :)

[–] Glitchvid@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

It's an intentional behavior by Apple. Basically they just don't support AV1 videostreams unless the hardware you're using has a hardware decoder (read: very new). They could support it using software decode (what browsers typically do for AV1 inside avif containers) but.... for whatever reasons don't.

[–] ink@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Haha, ye$, for rea$on$, I'm $ure... :D

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

I'm not sure demand for AV1 is enough to ship units

Probably either laziness or they want to avoid software decoding in general for performance reasons

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Fwiw it works on the desktop's alexandrite ui and on the thunder app

[–] fleem@piefed.zeromedia.vip 1 points 10 hours ago

on boost its a little slow but time quality.

better than most moving images in comments!

[–] feannag@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago

For the record, this is static in my Lemmy app (Summit).