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cross-posted from: https://piefed.world/c/tech/p/1261690/a-majority-of-americans-now-support-seizing-wealth-from-ai-industry

While 89% back mandatory safety disclosures, nearly 70% support requiring AI firms to transfer 50% of their stock to a public fund

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[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

that’s why UBI ... will never be enough to get your average person out of wage slavery.

Care to elaborate on that one?

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

It's fundamental to capitalism

Capital is "Wealth, money, or assets used to start a business, produce goods, or invest for future growth"

Even if you don't fully agree with the labor theory of value if you accept that it's partially accurate, then it's fundamental to capitalism to have a captive workforce that have to work to survive, because that's how you turn your money into more money: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_theory_of_value

That's why the development of modern capitalism was contingent on enclosing the commons and taking away people's ability to survive without working in factories for capitalists: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enclosure#Parliamentary_inclosure_acts

And also why the myth of the tragedy of the commons was invented by a literal lord: https://inthesetimes.com/article/commons-practices-capitalism-enclosure-peasants-indigenous-collective-ownership

If you really want to get into the details Marx lays it out pretty well in Capital vol.1 (even if it's not written in a particularly concise way and quite Eurocentric, I think this aspect is pretty well sourced and does explain how capitalism came to be in Europe pretty well).

So under a capitalist system, where capitalists & the state need your labor in order to enrich themselves, no alternative to labor is ever going to remove the requirement for people to work in order to access what they need to survive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalist_mode_of_production#Distinguishing_characteristics