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[–] stumu415@lemmy.zip 46 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

What most people don't understand is that the more you push China with tariffs, restrictions and sanctions, the more they will become self reliant - especially when it comes to technology. They will not roll over and curl up. Quite the opposite. Such a smart move by Trump's vasal Mark Rutte to block a commercial company selling to China. Just like with Nexperia. Both backfired hard as China has doubled its efforts to catch up and in case of Nexperia just manufactured these chips locally.

China already has equivalent GPU's just not as efficient yet. https://tech-insider.org/huawei-ascend-950pr-ai-chip-nvidia-china-2026/

[–] Verqix@lemmy.world 1 points 15 minutes ago

I think people are starting to become a lot more aware of what advantages are given up by changing the status quo. Not just w.r.t. China, but with a lot of American products, such as cloud, payment providers, operating systems, document processors etc.

Still, this can be abused in the short term on the stock market, so I doubt things will change much.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 18 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

It's ridiculous to do that so late in the game, but companies really wanted to outsource production to cheap areas in the 80s and ignore the long term consequences.

[–] Kaligalis@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

China becoming an industrialized country and the people there slowly getting to a higher standard of living is actually a good thing for us humanists for whom all humans have equal rights.

The problem is just that we need to migrate our thinking from a colonial exploitive mindset to a more sustainable one. The US can in principle just rebuild all the industry it lost and everything is fine until the oil finally runs out.
But the EU needs to start accepting that they are not rich on natural resources and that the countries which are, are becoming less reliant on imports. That means that the EU will run out of things to give in exchange for resources. If resources can't be bought anymore, what is already there needs to be recycled to almost 100%. And no bloc can long-term be dependent on energy imports because when everyone is industrialized, everyone has basically unlimited use for energy.

The solution is self-sufficiency on a bloc level. China, Russia, and the US should have no problems being their own blocs. Everyone else needs to overcome the disputes with their neighbors and create or join a bloc.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 1 points 6 minutes ago

Europa is having the discussion. You see one camp that wants to shut down exporting of waste and demand full recycling and local production. And the other group that's basically complaining it's more expensive again ignoring long term consequences.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Move all our production to a country that doesn't respect foreign IP? What could go wrong?

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 4 points 10 hours ago

With explicit technology sharing contracts. The name was a hint.