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[–] Confidant6198@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

This is from a server where they were having a discussion based on this report:

But the leadership of the Palestinian people is Hamas, not the Palestinian Authority. They’re despised by Palestinians and are active Zionist collaborators. You can’t just say “well the PA are the Palestinian people’s government sooo”

Hamas rejected the proposal

Also the Arab states are US client states haha

This is what I mean ‘multipolarity’ literally abandons class politics

You can’t take the Arab US client states, the Palestinian Authority (all of these the bourgeoisie or the comprador bourgeoisie who that are client states of imperialism and literally imposed dictatorships on the masses) and say they represent the Palestinian people

That’s like saying Chile’s Pinochet government represented the Chilean people

Did any of these states ask Hamas? Palestinian Islamic Jihad? The PFLP? The actual resistance who lead the actual liberation movement? No.

And yes, you could argue that they are seen as terror groups so it’s risky to have actual diplomatic relations with them, but that does not make the Palestinian Authority legitimate

[–] demerit@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 2 months ago

Its been quite clear that the "new world order" china and russia want to do isnt "socialist world police force" but simply letting countries do their thing. This has a much higher likelihood of leading to socialism AND getting states to actually sign off on a non-american led world.

Most of the global souths leadership is still capitalist in nature, only a few government actually do represent commonpeople.