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[–] BabyTurtles@hexbear.net 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)
  1. Don't use Gmail
  2. Epstein used Gmail and while eventually everything was leaked it's not like Google gave a shit anyway, so does it even matter
[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

What do you recommend people use for email?

I find it pretty difficult to recommend anything to people. I also look for alternatives to my current setup that is 60€ a year and has my emails end up in the recipients spam folder far too often, but everything else has pretty silly restrictions like only a very limited number of email aliases which cost the provider nothing to offer.

[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Tutamail, mailbox and posteo are the ones that people usually recommend

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago

I tried making a mailbox account a while back but I didn't get past their captcha thing. But yeah they look pretty solid.

[–] ByteFoolish@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I've only heard bad stuff about Proton recently.

[–] cerealkiller@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Email was really a very insecure protocol to begin with. There is an encrypton thing for It but It's a pain in the ass to setup.

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago

Yeah using GnuPG blows.

And the only people of which I have keys, I can also just write with on Signal.

[–] ByteFoolish@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Like what? People have recommended it to me but maybe I should go with another option

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The last thing I witnessed is them leaving Mastodon in shame after promoting the republican party.

Before that a couple of incidents where they gave law enforcement information on activists.

Idk if it's actually a crypto ag situation.

I guess none of this actually makes them a worse choice than Google.

[–] Inui@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

At least one of the law enforcement events was that they provided the recovery email address linked to the Proton account, which is not encrypted information and they were legally forced to give, then the authorities used that to get access to the other email account and bust them.

As far as I know, nobody has ever had their Proton emails accessed.

The CEO is a bit of a liberal/libertarian tech bro who sucks up to whoever they feel would be best for their business, including Republicans. And Proton itself does stuff like operating a VPN out of Hong Kong to promote "democracy" and whatever.

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago

They have actually complied to over 10000 requests by authorities in 2024. I don't get the impression they do all that much to fight those requests.

[–] coolusername@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago

Proton AG is modern crypto AG

[–] git@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago

If you have your own domain try Mxroute. I’ve set it up for family, no deliverability issues so far. Service is only tiered by storage, no limits otherwise.