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The Age of Disclosure is a new film featuring high-ranking government officials who claim proof of extraterrestrial life has been covered up

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

UFO enthusiasts should read speculative Sci Fi like Orion's Arm or Project Rho.

Like... if aliens exist, and they have the capability to travel across galaxies to get here, they aren't octopuses in flying saucers that we can detect. They're basically omniscient and invisible. Their ships would look more like this:

https://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/480a48b000f5b

It can redirect the path of a snowflake or rip a moon to fragments. It can accelerate a pebble into a habitat-shattering kinetic bomb or decelerate a RKKS projectile to harmlessness. It can reach down to a planetary surface from orbit and lift a sophont into space or shatter the crust of a world.

And that's a ship that wants to be seen, restricted to plausible physics humans can imagine, from a 'primitive' civilization with a mere 14,000 lightyears of expansion. That's nothing on an astronomical timescale.


Point being it's ridiculous to think we'd detect atmospheric UFOs, or that they'd even need atmospheric UFOs. It's anthropic fallacy. If they want to stay hidden (and astrophysical objects like re-arranged stars don't give them away), they can stay hidden.

[–] jbone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

Boring!

I want octopus aliens who love fried tiger prawns and martinis and who prefer their ships to have a 1950s, "nuclear age" aesthetic.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also, everyone assumes human scale. Why wouldn't an alien craft be half an inch long?

[–] redhorsejacket@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

There's a passage in the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy about that, if I remember right. Some alien species is grievously offended by something Earth does (unknowingly). They marshall their proudest battle fleet and commence an invasion of the planet. However, "due to a small miscalculation in scale, the entire fleet was swallowed by a passing small dog."

[–] Franconian_Nomad@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago

How primitive! Truly advanced aliens can put all this mumbo jumbo in a flying saucer.

[–] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 2 points 1 month ago

Upvoted for project RHO. That is some GOLD standard OG Internet right there.