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    [–] squaresinger@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Asking for Linux help online is still just as toxic and useless as 20 years ago.

    [–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Being told "RFTM! noob", isn't as common as it was 20 years ago. At least with Fedora where good help can be found. Still, there are a good number of questions that just don't get answered either.

    [–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Try Reddit or Stackoverflow for a contrasting experience.

    [–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

    I often go through r/fedora and I very seldom come across anyone belittling anyone else. You might not get an answer at all, but it's seldom anyone will tell you to RTFM. I have little experience with stackoverflow, so I can't say anything about them.

    [–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Being told to read the manual did me good.

    We should bring back RTFM, and cease allowing it to be smeared as something bad. Burnout is no fun. RTFM spares developers from burnout, allowing them to continue developing good software (and have it be well documented... if only users would read the flippin manual!) ;D

    [–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

    RTFM is good and can be useful for newcomers, if you help them through finding and understanding the RTFM. Many of them are poorly organized and written. It can be hard to understand them.

    [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

    All the support forums I went to (redhat, gentoo, debian) in 2005 were friendly helpful and well moderated. What is this fud?