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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

People aren't being "disappeared" for nebulous and secret reasons. They're being disappeared because they're brown, they speak a non-English language, or they have some minor criminal citation in the public record.

We're making up hypotheticals to be afraid of surveillance when the modern state is already snatching people up for very superficial and arbitrary reasons

[–] cheesybuddha@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

That scope will narrow as time passes.

Now it's brown poor people. Soon it will be trans people. Maybe next brown rich people, or Muslims, or Socialists. Y'all know the poem.

They've already "declared" Antifa a terrorist group and fentanyl as a WMD, that's all the justification previous republican presidents have needed for starting wars and civil terror campaigns.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

When they have to filter people by whatever undesirable trait they make an enemy out of next week, where will the information come from?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's literally just guys in vans cruising around town snatching people. You don't need anything particularly high tech for that

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes you do. If you're trying to find gays, it's not like they walk around in rainbow skin colors. How would the be identified?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago

Two men holding hands? A line of people marching in a pride parade? Anyone with Grindr installed on their phones?

Take your pick.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You don't think they are already using the surveillance state/surveillance capitalism in this process? Its not hypothetical, its just that the scope is narrow this moment.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

You don’t think they are already using the surveillance state/surveillance capitalism in this process?

A lot of people are being picked up at their immigration hearings, at traffic stops, and at their jobs. This is all information already in the public record. You don't need surveillance to be marked as a legal immigrant.