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[–] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world -3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Incorrect. Common knowledge and google will confirm that Dr. Pepper is not made by Coca-Cola.

If your statement is true, you'll have to explain why and provide evidence.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Except in Europe, where it is.

[–] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well, I just looked it up and- yup, you're still wrong.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world -2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, that is indeed proof that Coca-Cola DISTRIBUTES in Europe, which is different from being the company which MAKES the product- which is still not Coca-Cola.

It's pedantic, but I love being technically correct.

Ninja edit: technically also they don't distribute either, another company named Coca-Cola Europacific Partners technically does the distribution.

[–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The Dr Pepper distributed in Europe is also made in Europe by Coca Cola.

It's also a different recipe. Except in some of the vending machines, the ones that do all the varieties of everything use American recipe syrups.

You're trying to save it by being excessively pedantic but it isn't working because you're still wrong.

[–] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

No, I'm not? It's not made by coca-cola. Show me otherwise?

Ninja edit: like idk what to tell you guys. Every article and AI summary of whether or not coke manufactures Dr. Pepper, even when including Europe, clearly supports my argument. According to the article I just checked,

From spicedonline:

Coke Connection In the early 1990s, The Coca-Cola Company entered into a partnership with Dr Pepper to distribute and manufacture the soda in various international markets. This partnership ended in 2005 when Dr Pepper Snapple Group, a separate entity, acquired the rights to produce and distribute Dr Pepper globally. Despite this, Dr Pepper is still sold alongside Coke products in many regions.

[–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is a UK Dr Pepper 500ml bottle label:

It is made in GB (Great Britain) by Coca Cola. They're a bit hard to pin down on the exact factory, probably because they have more than one. I'm pretty sure discount stores get theirs from a different factory to all the main shops.

Also, from their own website:

In GB, Coca‑Cola Europacific Partners makes, sells and distributes soft drinks for every occasion and sells more than four billion bottles and cans every year. We make 97% of our products in GB, including Coca‑Cola Original Taste, Coca‑Cola Zero Sugar, Diet Coke, Fanta, Dr Pepper, Sprite, Appetiser, Oasis and Schweppes.

And further down the page:

CCEP has multiple manufacturing locations in Great Britain, including Sidcup, Edmonton, Milton Keynes, Wakefield, Morpeth, and East Kilbride.

So actually it looks like most of the European Dr Pepper might be produced in the UK. TIL.

[–] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I see the bottle but don't understand the evidence. I see made in GB and separately coca-cola contact info, but I don't see how that definitively proves that it was manufactured (rather than simply distributed) by coca-cola, can you please clarify if I'm missing something?

I am skeptical of the website's claims when there are so many counter claims.

[–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The bottle states the manufacturer is CCEP. The website is their website. I don't think you can get a more direct source, short of calling each of the factories at the different locations and asking them if they make Dr Pepper.

[–] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

To clarify: that text next to the envelope icon is what you are referring to?

Because it was an envelope, I interpreted it as "distributed by", are you saying that is the manufacturer and not the distributor? And you know this for fact? I can now see an interpretation where the envelope maybe represents "contact us".

[–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The envelope is the mailing address for Coca Cola Europacific Partners. It doesn't specify what they do, presumably because it's implied they do it all. If it was imported the label would have to say that (eg many beers either say they're imported or brewed locally under license, the ones that don't are local breweries).

The Coca Cola website explicitely states that Coca Cola Europacific Partners both makes, sells and distributes it. They are the sole licensed producer for many countries across the European and Asian regions.

The bottle identifies that CCEP have some involvement, and the website confirms that they do it all.

[–] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
  1. The argument was never about whether or not anything was imported. The question is whether or not Coca-Cola MAKES Dr. Pepper (not bottles, not distributes, etc).
  2. I do not care about an uncited claim made by the website team? This isn't strong evidence, and clinging to it pretending that it is, is desperate. It's possible they are completely lying or obfuscating through the wording being used. More likely: they probably just don't care very much to be precise.
  3. CCEP is an independent BOTTLING COMPANY which is only 19% owned by Coca-Cola.

So again, no mattwr how you look at it.

You. Are. Wrong. Do a better job finding evidence and try again if you like.

[–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What the fuck man, learn to read and follow basic logic. Learn to take in new information.

  1. Yes, and I have provided direct 1st source evidence that CCEP make Dr Pepper in the EU (and for Asia).
  2. "Uncited claim from the website team" - dude, this is literally the source. You could not cite something more authoritative. The company that owns the brand says they make it. Like I said before, you won't get a more primary source without speaking to the individual factories. Have you tried doing that yet? Have you done anything but sit back and attempt to snipe down a complete argument (and failing miserably)?
  3. Do you seriously think they fly or ship tanks of Dr Pepper and other drinks across the Atlantic to supply Europe?! That CCEP only bottle some magic liquid they import from elsewhere?
  4. Did you forget the part where Dr Pepper in the EU is a completely different recipe? With no high fructose corn syrup. Because corn isn't major produce in Europe (also stupid sugar laws, which incidentally also affected Irn Bru from the OP).

You're nuts mate.

Please provide some evidence of your own. You've given nothing, and even your reasoning is detrimentally flawed.

[–] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Yikes, that's ironic.

Everything you said was addressed in my previous comment. Incredibly embarrassing for you- your third and fourth points don't even make sense, your first point is acknowledging that I never argued it wasn't made in the EU.

"This is literally the source" yikes bro we really live in a post-reality society. No, buddy, no it's not.

Any person (or any company) can say almost anything they want to on the internet, so I'm sorry that you are stupid enough to accept every single claim made by every single company without even an ounce of scrunity or at least the charitability to acknowledge that it is not an airtight piece of evidence.

Edit: hell you even made me forget my own argument in the first place. CCEP isn't the same as Coca-Cola. They are independent. Coca-Cola doesn't even own the biggest share in the company.

You are a dipshit.

[–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Where is your source?

You have given nothing, you have argued nothing, and you have failed miserably.

CCEP literally has Coca Cola in the name. It is the European and Asian division of the global multinational organisation, one which is made up of multiple companies. Yet again, you are being pedantic and arguing semantics, but getting it completely wrong.

Not surprising seeing as you live in a "post-reality society". I've got news for you: society exists beyond the borders of your mother's basement. And out there, objective truth still matters.