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[–] man_wtfhappenedtoyou@lemmy.world 118 points 2 days ago (27 children)

You know what's funny is .ml was one of the first instances I signed up for. I thought it stood for machine learning or something to do with programming.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 48 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I knew it was a leftist instance. I went into it (naively) excited to engage with a more thoughtful leftist internet space, considering it was a bunch of reddit exiles who were upset about heavy handed Reddit censorship. I was quite disappointed to learn quickly that it was just more of the same tankie brain rot, with more of the same tankie censorship you can find in a thousand different tedious places.

Even then I stuck with it for a bit. And then I learned that the head admin was potentially the most fragile person on the Internet, who literally will not post outside his own instance because he cannot handle any internet where he does not have (what he believes to be) a "win argument" ban button. It is literally so cringe, I cannot stand to be associated with it, and I don't understand how other people tolerate being associated with his antics.

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 19 points 1 day ago (4 children)

MLs are essentially incapable of arguing in good faith. You know how Christians quote to bible to "prove" their religion is true? MLs are the political version of that.

[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Honestly I will half agree with you. Really we should be providing primary sources if we want to prove anything.

Not because I don't believe socialist news sources are inaccurate it's just that liberals are not going to believe it.

[–] BossDj@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago

I opened a thread just yesterday and the top comment was "I recommend you read this article if you want to know what Noam Chomsky is really like". It was upvoted. I like to learn things, and don't really listen to a lot of Chomsky. So I started reading.

It was the most uneducated, biased, ragebait crap I'd ever seen posted to the fediverse. I started mentally building my reply about how "people are saying" is the worst kind of fallacy, and providing a quote from someone else with a different opinion doesn't count as opposing evidence. I actually got a little upset, disillusioned even, wondering how anyone could fall for this idiotic "argument". I didn't agree or disagree with any point, but it was just so poorly made.

I went to reply, thinking I should provide some warning, then I noticed I was in an ml community. I'm mobile, so it sometimes doesn't show the community until I've clicked (I know I can change that in the settings). I considered posting anyway, but it felt so fruitless. It feels like they're either sheep or assets. I moved on. I feel better getting to let it out here instead.

[–] JGrffn@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

As someone leaning ML, this makes me feel like I haven't argued with my own side in a while..... Or I am less ML than I think I am.....

I have an ML account and usually just jump back and forth between .world local posts and .ml local posts and I swear I'm not seeing all this hostility people talk about anywhere

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[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 5 points 1 day ago (15 children)

excited to engage with a more thoughtful leftist internet space

considering it was a bunch of reddit exiles who were upset about heavy handed Reddit censorship

Lmfao. What's leftism to you?

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I only signed up since it was one of the few instances allowing registration at the time of a big reddit exodus. Just haven't made too many new accounts in other instances yet but yes, the community is in an echo chamber.

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[–] drzoidberg@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've got an ml account too, but at the time I think world was normal. I think world has also gone the Reich way.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 0 points 1 day ago

there some .ml accounts that just talking about tech, i assume that what it is originally for, but it was co-opting by hard left politics at some point.

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (8 children)
[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 68 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Technically it is the top-level domain name for Mali.

I’m fairly certain that the Lemmy devs chose it because of their two favorite socialists/communists: Marx and Lenin. But I can’t find a reference to that right now.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 36 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Marx was a socialist political philosopher, that helped define the social end goal of communism. Lenin was a militant revolutionary that thought he could ignore Marx's slow natural social evolution to communism. And force it under authoritarian boot heel. He was aspirationally communist at best, but not communist. His ideology has failed to achieve it everywhere it was tried. Generally, creating a new class of Petit Bourgeoisie or even collapsing into open fascism.

Other than that you are correct. Lemmy.ml hexbear.ml and lemmygrad.ml all chose the Mali TLD because of the abbreviation.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Lenin wasn't trying to erase that transition to communism is gradual, but instead correctly identified that the beginning of that transition is revolution, which Marxists at the time had erased from Marx. Dialectical materialism posits that there are revolutionary leaps after quantitative buildups, the transition to socialism is the beginning of the next long gradual process of achieving communism. He did not "force it under authoritarian boot heel," but instead was the leader of the bolsheviks, a mass party chosen by the working claases.

Contrary to your position, Marxism-Leninism has successfully established socialism in many countries, and is so widely adopted by leftists partially because of its practical success. It's the western leftists that endlessly move goalposts to invalidate socialism outside the west that results in perpetuation of bourgeois narratives surrounding socialism as it exists in real life.

Honestly, your appraisal of Lenin and Marx makes it come off as though you haven't actually read either. Have you?

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago

Other than that you are correct. Lemmy.ml hexbear.ml and lemmygrad.ml all chose the Mali TLD because of the abbreviation.

it's hexbear.net

Lenin was a militant revolutionary that thought he could ignore Marx's slow natural social evolution to communism

Huh, I never thought I'd encounter an actual Menshevik on Lemmy.

Please tell me through materialist historical analysis: without a strong vanguard party pushing for rapid collectivization in 1929 in pursuit of industrialization, and the rapid industrialization (15% GDP growth per year) between 1929 and 1941, what would have happened to all peoples standing between Berlin and the Urals?

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Have you read either Marx or Lenin?

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[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just like .TV domain is actually Tuvalu but Twitch and other livestreaming sites use it as abbreviation. These countries actually make a lot of money from selling top level domains like that.

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[–] Aequitas@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That is such a simplification that it is probably wrong.

Marx did not really concern himself with the ultimate goal of communism. His great achievement was his analysis of capitalism. Marx did not describe a slow evolution toward communism, but rather a process in which the contradictions he identified in capitalism culminate in revolution. No evolution! The few times he commented on communism, he described its prerequisites. He writes in the Communist Manifesto "In depicting the most general phases of the development of the proletariat, we traced the more or less veiled civil war, raging within existing society, up to the point where that war breaks out into open revolution, and where the violent overthrow of the bourgeoisie lays the foundation for the sway of the proletariat."

Lenin's approach was enormously successful in some respects. After the October Revolution, the USSR underwent unprecedented industrial development, which greatly improved the living conditions of most people. In general, the argument that “it has never worked before” is very problematic. For some strange reason, communist countries have always found themselves under massive attack from capitalist countries. For example, by Hitler's Germany or the US. Inconceivable sums of money were invested by global capital and its states to show “that communism does not work.” If it really hadn't worked, none of that would have been necessary. That still applies today. Lenin was a right-wing, authoritarian communist and was rightly criticized for this by people like Rosa Luxemburg. But economically, things were improving so rapidly that capitalist states became increasingly concerned. The fear was so great that capitalists in the US even agreed to the New Deal. Something similar happened in Europe.

ML does not stand for Marx and Lenin, but for Marxism-Leninism. A propagandistic self-description of the system of the Soviet Union under Stalin. Another word for it is Stalinism.

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Nah, they chose it because the ccTLD along with few others had been free for a long time. I was there when lemmy was just a few months old.

Someone made up these reference about marx/lenin claim and was perfect for wankies to circle jerk and the tankies didn't refute it or went along with it, so it stuck.

Before that the free domains were mostly used for spam/phishing (because it was free and being similar to .mil), some called it machine learning, my links, my library and so on. US military sent lots of emails to this cctld because of unchecked typo.

Except lemmy (& maybe reddit? to detract people from the fediverse), the .ml domain is not considered marxlenin anywhere else.

https://dev.to/bauripalash/lets-get-your-own-free-domain-5f16

https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/15vrq8o/now_with_freenom_closed_is_there_any_other_way_to/

https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/18/us_military_mali_email_typos/

[–] Denjin@feddit.uk 22 points 2 days ago

Moron liberation

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago

Marxist Leninist

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