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[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today -3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Pretending that Marxist-Leninists have Leftist beliefs is cute. That workers have no self-determination and have to tow the party line under threat of violence is the dead giveaway

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

What not reading and uncritically swallowing western propaganda does to a MF

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Here's one of the bootlickers now. Bro, you're a right winger obsessed with collectivization. Quit stinking up the revolution with your nonsense.

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 4 points 23 hours ago

Quit stinking up the revolution with your CIA indoctrinated understanding of "authoritarianism" and your non materialist way of understanding history. To you, European social-democracy isn't authoritarian because you happen not to live in the lands affected by neocolonialism.

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Meanwhile you swallow campist doctrine. Ok buddy

[–] moderatecentrist@feddit.uk 0 points 1 day ago

Related to your post: I've seen people from Lemmy.ml defend imperialist behaviour from Russia and China. Surely the left is supposed to oppose imperialism - whether it's from the US, Europe, Russia, China, or anywhere else.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The communist party is run by the working classes and derives its power from popular support. The people oppressed by communist parties were overwhelmingly fascists, landlords, and capitalists.

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Out right lies. The communist parties (the ones that have existed, not the the theoretical ones) derive their power from threat of violence against workers. They're a non-hereditary nobility that oppress workers (except North Korea which is now a hereditary monarchy).

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 17 hours ago

Incorrect, on all counts. Communist parties derive their power from popular support from the working classes, as they themselves are working class. State violence is used against fascists, sabateurs, capitalists, and landlords. If they truly were a nobility concerned only with oppressing workers, then you have to prove why there was such dramatic improvements in social welfare, poverty eradication, key life metrics, studied Marxism and taught it in universities, and more. Certainly these would have been of no importance to a new ruling class?

You're dramatically incorrect here.

[–] IndieGoblin@lemmy.4d2.org -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Communists are rich people who are privileged enough to not work and spend all day larping. They dont know working class people they've never met any.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm a communist and that's false for me and every communist I know IRL that I work with, and is also false on an international scale. Communist parties are working class parties.

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today -1 points 1 day ago

Most of my friends are some flavor of Anarchist or Socialist. Of the two outright Commies that I've known (who described themselves as such) one was a man of the people and the other was a lazy spoiled phony who's communism expressed itself mainly as sharing memes on facebook.

[–] IndieGoblin@lemmy.4d2.org -2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Communists love to wear working class struggle as a disguise. They aren't working class and once they get power they use and abuse them just like every other rich cunt.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (4 children)

This is nonsense. Communists seek collectivization of production and distribution to satisfy the needs of all, and when communists take power the first things they do is implement measures like land reform, literacy campaigns, and expropriate property from landlords and capitalists to better serve the interests of the people.

[–] IndieGoblin@lemmy.4d2.org -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

First thing they do is strip rights away from people. Second thing they do is start erasing history. Third is increasing police forces to crack down on any dissent.

Communists serve the communist party not the people.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 18 hours ago

Again, untrue. In Russia, for example, life expectancies doubled, literacy rates went from 20-30% to full literacy, working hours dropped while real wages rose, healthcare and education were free and high quality, the economy was democratized and the country went from a feudal backward to space in less than a century, beating the Nazis along the way.

They dramatically expand rights, teach history, and cracked down on the fascists, capitalists, and landlords.

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That problem is that not all communists were made equal. I've heard plenty of communists talk that I can respect but MLs aren't the ones. Bolsheviks always managed to get their needs especially met and before anyone elses needs.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 17 hours ago

Marxism-Leninism is the only branch of communism that has actually successfully implemented socialism. I'm not sure what communists you spoke with that you can respect if you don't respect any that have actually succeeded. The point about MLs ensuring their needs are met before anyone elses is just nonsense considering everywhere socialism has been implemented by MLs has come with dramatic improvements in the lives of the working classes.

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today -1 points 1 day ago

That problem is that not all communists were made equal. I've heard plenty of communists talk that I can respect but MLs aren't the ones. Bolsheviks always managed to get their needs especially met and before anyone elses needs.

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today -1 points 1 day ago

That problem is that not all communists were made equal. I've heard plenty of communists talk that I can respect but MLs aren't the ones. Bolsheviks always managed to get their needs especially met and before anyone elses needs.

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Some communists, not all communists.

[–] IndieGoblin@lemmy.4d2.org 1 points 23 hours ago

Nah pretty safe to say all.

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

Some communists, not all communists.