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Situation intensifies as Beijing condemns tanker seizures and US security chief calls to remove Nicolas Maduro from power.

Archived version: https://archive.is/20251223000937/https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3337400/china-says-us-broke-international-law-seizing-venezuelan-oil-tankers


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[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It's not whataboutism . You said China is worse than the usa is not respecting international laws and maritime laws. I gave you all the evidence of why I think the usa ia worth.

Yes it is hilarious when China and Russia claim to care about inteenational laws but it is even more hilarious when the USA and it's ally claim it. Like canada claiming to want a two state solution in Gaza at the same time allowing selling of occupied land in Synaguoges and allowing an IDF soldier to talk in an University

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I never said China was worse...only that they're also violating the very same laws they're criticizing the US for violating. If the hypocrisy wasn't so on-the-nose, I wouldn't have said anything...but this is just laughable.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

No, your argument was more than just China being hypocritical which i agree with you on that. You said China is the last country who should talk about international and maritine laws. I think the usa is the last since they are worse than China but doesn't makes China better

China is the last country with any credible right to criticize other countries for playing fast and loose with maritime laws.

Shouldn't the worse be the last to talk about it?

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

"The worst" is the subject of their criticism. Are you expecting them to criticize themselves? Because if they did, that would be a rare example of self-awareness on their part...not an act of hypocrisy.

But considering China has been blatantly and willfully violating the neutrality of international waters for years now, it is surprising they don't see their own hypocrisy here. A fitting analogy would be Russia criticizing Israel for stealing land from Palestinians. Sure, you can make some arguments about the scale of the comparison...but it's basically a "pot calling the kettle black" scenario, all the same.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

But considering China has been blatantly and willfully violating the neutrality of international waters for years now

The US blockade in cuba is 60 years old. The usa as a funder of israel occupation is responsible of the 19 years blockade in Gaza and the kidnapping and murdering of Palestinian fishmen

Again China is terrible but the usa is worse

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 1 points 49 minutes ago (1 children)

Lol! Ummm, yeah. You get that those examples are not the same thing, though...right? The US isn't actually "blockading" Cuba with military vessels in order to prevent traffic to and from the country. Don't get me wrong...what they're doing to Cuba is wrong. But it has nothing to do with illegally policing international waters.

And bringing up Israel, when talking about China / US similarities, is also not applicable. They have nothing to do with either situation. They're committing their own crimes, completely independent of those being committed by China and the US.

This is what makes it "whataboutism".

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 1 points 31 minutes ago

Why does it matter for you if the blockade involve the military or not? At the end of the day the effects on Cubans are real and goes against international laws.

The usa is envolved in the blockade of gaza it is not whataboutism, you are being ridiculous. With your rhetoric all your comments are whataboutism since the article is about china position on the attack on Venezuela