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Situation intensifies as Beijing condemns tanker seizures and US security chief calls to remove Nicolas Maduro from power.

Archived version: https://archive.is/20251223000937/https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3337400/china-says-us-broke-international-law-seizing-venezuelan-oil-tankers


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[–] frisbird@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, now they suddenly care about international law?

This is your original comment. The point you were making is LITERALLY whataboutism.

The US is factually violating international law. China called them out. You said "but what about China violating international law".

It doesn't get much more whataboutism than that. So let me continue you the trend here.

You think the commenter you were replying to is doing a whataboutism? What about your whataboutism?!

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think you know what "whataboutism" means, then. It's when you deflect to something unrelated, instead of focusing on the topic in question. In this case, the topic in question was LITERALLY China accusing the US of violating international law, specifically in regards to maritime law.

There is no better irony, than China...who is currently violating international law, specifically in regards to maritime law...criticizing the US for doing exactly the same thing. See, how I didn't change the subject? It was LITERALLY the subject already.

Pointing out someone's hypocrisy isn't whataboutism, if the subject is the same. Otherwise the entire concept of calling out hypocrisy would be considered a logical fallacy. It's only whataboutism, if you are bringing up unrelated topics in order to change the subject.

[–] frisbird@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 hour ago

The topic was actually the US violating international law. Your comment was, paraphrased "but what about China violating international law?!", which is literally exactly the context under which the word whataboutism was coined - when the US accused the USSR of doing bad things and the USSR called out the hypocrisy of the US, the anglosphere coined the term whataboutism.

It's literally the definition.

There are much better ironies than China causing the US of violating international law, chief among them is the US accusing China of violating international law, because the US has been doing for far longer and in far more brutal ways than China ever has.

Yes, pointing out hypocrisy is literally whataboutism when you are using is to distract from the crimes of the empire. The reality is that everyone, including countries that have violated international law, should be condemning the US for what it's doing and whether or not the condemners have violated international law is irrelevant and serves to minimize the topic at hand, which is the US seizing oil, and to advance sinophobic narratives, and to draw false equivalencies between horrible acts of murder, war crimes, piracy on the one hand and mild harassment on the other.

Ultimately, the greatest irony here is Westoids like you believing your opinions are well informed and not subject to foreign manipulation while being the most propagandized people in the planet.