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Situation intensifies as Beijing condemns tanker seizures and US security chief calls to remove Nicolas Maduro from power.

Archived version: https://archive.is/20251223000937/https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3337400/china-says-us-broke-international-law-seizing-venezuelan-oil-tankers


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[โ€“] frisbird@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The US isn't behaving defensively, it's behaving offensively. Maybe that's why you're confused about my position.

Let's take your example. Criminals on the street.

Let's say you're a black person in America living in a predominantly black neighborhood. Some neo-Nazis have been roving the streets for the last couple of years, robbing people, beating them up, breaking into homes, vandalizing homes, killing people, kidnapping and torturing people, etc.

But those neo-Nazis also own the newspapers and TV stations and they produce media saying that the black neighborhood you live in is a terrible place and needs to be cleaned up.

You and your neighbors beseech the police to protect you, but they do nothing.

So you and your neighbors take it on yourself to blockade the street to protect yourselves.

And then the neonazi news media says you're violating the law and then people on Lemmy argue that violating laws like this is terrible no matter what.

Do you get it now?

[โ€“] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 minutes ago

The US isn't behaving defensively, it's behaving offensively. Maybe that's why you're confused about my position.

It's funny that you think your opinion about their motives even matters here. It doesn't. They can say whatever they want in defense of their crimes...just like China can. China is literally using the exact same defense of their actions in the SCS. What makes their excuses valid, while the US's excuses are not?

Let's look at your analogy, from a rational perspective...I assume the "neo Nazis" you're talking about, represent the US? So, you're suggesting that the US has been roving around in the South China Sea, randomly robbing and killing people recently, and that China is only trying to protect itself? When did these attacks happen? Because the US hasn't been involved in any conflicts in that region since at least the end of the Vietnam war. That makes your entire analogy invalid. China isn't "defending itself" against anyone. No one in that region is currently threatening China, in any way.

It's just a bullshit excuse, no different than the one the US is trying to use in the Caribbean.

That's why reasons like these are not valid justifications for breaking the law. You don't just get to pick and choose what laws apply to you, based on your excuses. You either think they should apply to everyone equally...or you don't. And if you don't...then you can't complain when other people ignore those laws, too.