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She was an avant-garde artist and no one was forced to pay attention to her ever but they acted like it
You could arguably say this about every artist, you're just jealous that they have more confidence than you
Aehhhh...
You can think someone is a famous narcissist, and not be jealous of their fame or talent or confidence at all.
And, there are also a great number of artists who... eschew fame, have comparitively little public identity or persona.
... you probably just haven't heard about as many of them though.
Because they don't really like to 'do' marketing, as much as they like to 'do' art, so you tend to have to actually go looking for them.
EDIT:
An expansion on the first concept:
To clarify the first point a bit, I'm pretty darned confident about my own abilities, ideas and opinions.
But I don't care at all to be widely or broadly recognized or praised, I in fact very much prefer the opposite of that, I like my peace and privacy, all I really need is a small amount of validation from a few people, every once in a while.
Most of the time, I can self-validate, while also doing my best to also have a healthy level of self-criticality, sanity checking myself, admitting fault when I've been too bull-headed.
... An actual narcissist seemingly cannot do any of that. They need, like, literally need to be constantly reaffirmed, praised, paid attention to, seemingly have their own cult of personality based around them.
They don't seem to be able to actually be self-confident, in a self-contained way, they instead just pantomime, fake, front, act as if they are supremely confident, but its an act, not the real thing.
Inside, they're Patrick Bateman, a mask of a charismatic personality wrapped around a tumultuous void of nothing, that almost always eventually collapses in on itself.
So... I'm not jealous of the confidence of a narcissist, because I have the real thing.
I actually pity them and their inability to ... auto-self-validate.
I'm also not jealous of their fame, I don't want that at all, sounds awful.
While I do appreciate the talent some particular narcissist may have at some particular thing... I'm not envious, jealous, made insecure or made to feel lacking in some way, by not having that level of skill.
I just appreciate and respect that someone has that level of skill.
If her art was being as asshole then yes I agree she was great at her art
I don’t like saying anything nice about the woman, but she was pretty much the leading Fluxus artist in the 60s and 70s. As an artist, she’s actually quite talented.
She’s still a fucking bitch though. I met her once, and it was thoroughly unpleasant.
Maybe a niche cut but I'd call Rodney Mullen a legendary artist who is completely devoid of narcissism and want-of attention. It's not some requirement to act like Kanye to be a good artist.
That is an entirely out of left field, yet also incredibly apt example, I think.
Mullen is a damned legend, but is also incredibly humble, especially when compared to a lot of other skateboarders.