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[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I completely agree with what you're saying. However, on the other hand, "black lives matter" and "feminism" are equally exposed to the "all lives matter" and "equality" rebuttals from people that want to shut them down.

I think some progress could be made if those championing equality made a concerted effort to gain ownership of the "all lives matter" and "equality" slogans/campaigns, and then used that ownership to point out the problems (all lives matter, and black lives are currently being stepped on, etc.)

[–] zeca@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

I feel like instead of changing the name, we should stop justifying it on "equality". The purpose of the movement is to stop a form of oppression. The name of the movement clearly takes the side of the oppressed, recognizing the oppression. Saying that the movement is for "equality" backpedals the recognition that an oppression exists and the discussion shifts to another point of derailment like "but arent men and women naturally different in some ways? is equality actually appropriate? what is equality?"

The productive feminist discussions are in debating the oppressions that exist and how to change them, not getting tangled in teological discussions about "nature" and "equality".

[–] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 day ago

The problem with that is that people who use egalitarianism or all lives matter don't actually want equality, they want oppressed people to shut up