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[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 70 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

I was born in 1982. I think I have a good excuse for thinking America went to shit, oh say, around the end of 2001.

Personally, my 20s sucked. My 30s were much better.

[–] Fermion@feddit.nl 53 points 2 months ago (2 children)

'93 here and I think the passage of the Patriot Act was a pretty important demarcation line, not just for abandonment of due process, but also when all the major networks embraced telling their audience who to hate.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

That was how it was before the Vietnam War. The news media disconnected itself from the foreign policy desires of the State Department during the Vietnam War because they actually saw the lies on the ground and reported the facts.

The first Iraq war started the change back to having the news media play lapdog again with "embedded reporters" meaning that the news media couldn't wander by themselves like they did in Vietnam.

So we have shifted back to a news media basically toeing the line for the wishes of the government.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Funny thing. I was living in NYC on 9/11/2001. None of the people I knew thought that the Iraq Invasion was a good idea.

[–] dalekcaan@feddit.nl 2 points 2 months ago

I was born in the mid 90s, and I feel like my experience of things going to shit in the mid 2010s is similarly justified.