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[–] Twongo@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

the eu is illegitimate. i didn't vote for them, effectively no one did. they decide without consultation. is it ok to kidnap their politicians now?

[–] 0xtero@beehaw.org 11 points 3 weeks ago

I’m not crazy about EU and there are certainly parts of it that are dodgy, but we do actually vote our EU representatives, the fact that you personally didn’t doesn’t mean it’s illegitimate.

[–] knexcar@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Does that mean Britain was right to vote for Brexit? I thought that was universally seen as a dumb move on par with voting for Trump.

[–] Twongo@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

for their own material conditions? pretty dumb move.

[–] Lenins_Dumbbell@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago

We should all be hoping other member States also exit. Polish exit is currently trending. Hopefully it goes through.

We can all hate the US but let's not forget that EU isn't some saint. Only reason they're not as savage as the US is because they are effectively neutered vassals

[–] scapegarced@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 weeks ago

This, if the eu member states were advocating for the global well being of all peoples it would be pretty smart to all vote leave at the expense of their own material conditions. This would allow the peoples of the member states to actually vote for anti-imperialist policies (they probably wouldnt, but assuming we were actually collectively advocating for global well being) and to see that the capitalist class wouldnt enact such policies without a struggle.

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You voted for their leadership.

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Funny thing about voting, your pick doesn't necessarily win

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I wouldn't pick any of these fucks, and all of them just do creep towards fascism at varying speeds when they win. Death to schumer (I'm in America).

The whole concept of decision making elites, even if elected, is fucked and antidemocratic.