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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -2 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Broad question. As regards to hurricanes, I believe they are a natural weather event caused by the interactions of heat and pressure in the atmosphere.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but those natural conditions wouldn't exist if it weren't for the fall of man.

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How could you possibly know that? How could it possibly be true?

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What you're asking here is essentially less about the fall theologically, and more about "How do you know Christianity is true", correct?

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

How do you know christianity is correct is part of it. But no part of Christianity that I'm aware of states that sin causes hurricanes.

So maybe start there.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Genesis 3:17-19

And to Adam he said, “Because you have listened to the voice of your wife and have eaten of the tree of which I commanded you, ‘You shall not eat of it,’ cursed is the ground because of you; in pain you shall eat of it all the days of your life; thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you; and you shall eat the plants of the field. By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread, till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; for you are dust, and to dust you shall return.”

Romans 8:18-23

For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us. For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of him who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to corruption and obtain the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now. And not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies.

Essentially, sin cursed the earth. Natural disasters are a part of that.

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Neither of those mention natural disasters. Genesis is specifically talking about struggling to farm the earth for subsistence.

And romans says nothing about natural disasters either.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I think you need to look at the wider theological view of the text regarding the earth being cursed than what was literally written down. The earth being cursed essentially could have brought about animal suffering, natural disasters, droughts, etc. Another view one could have had is that they still could have happened but they wouldn't have actually hurt people due to human mortality being introduced by the fall.

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So you agree sin causing hurricanes isnt a strictly biblical viewpoint and even put forward another you could accept where they already existed...

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's not necessarily Christian dogma. In fact, people have diverse views surrounding the beginning of Genesis as a whole. The fact of the matter is, suffering on earth isn't caused by God, it's a product of The Fall.

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And how can you know that? Keep in mind, something can be written down and also not be true.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 2 months ago

I showed you the scriptural references regarding the earth and man being cursed

[–] teft@piefed.social 9 points 2 months ago
[–] Rothe@piefed.social 6 points 2 months ago

There is nothing to "believe". We know how hurricanes are created.