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[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There's no rationally debating them. It's like trying to rationally debate maga. They'll ignore everything you say and make up scenarios that would make you the clear loser, and then bludgeon the strawman to death with insults and repeat themselves over and over no matter how many times you point out how irrational they're being...

[–] Senal@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"What is not reasoned in, cannot be reasoned out."

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Something all too common with extremists. It's fruitless to argue with facts and logic™ since they live in a different reality.

The only way to get through to them is playing therapist and figuring out their emotions and getting them to question themselves. Questions like, why does China have a stock exchange? Why can't you be gay in Russia? Why did Lenin say don't let Stalin take control? That's why they band together so much and silence all opposition that ask questions, they can't risk thinking inwards. They need to affirm each other, while non-extremists don't need to, since reality is on their side.

[–] Senal@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I agree mostly with that but i also, personally, need to keep on top of adequately questioning my own reasoning.

Just because i think reality is on my side doesn't make it automatically true, I'm not immune to propaganda or fallacious logic.

Even worse (for me personally) is the trap of assuming my subjective (and relatively well reasoned ) correctness in other conversations carries over in to whatever conversation I'm having right now.

A sense of conversational and intellectual superiority can be an insidious path to closed mind.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Absolutely, that's why introspection is so important

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, all extremists do that. It's such a shame.

Fortunately Tankies are extremely passive and weak, they're not at all like MAGA, who are full-blown fascists.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Unfortunately tankies haven't realized that yet. They still think they have a chance in hell of waging a successful revolution 🙄

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Oh they realise it, that's why they larp about violence and their fantasies of it.