MeanwhileOnGrad

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Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
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lmao, you're the same Uyghur genocide denier that came here last time. Didn't you call this place a Nazi bar? What are you doing hanging out in a place where you (delusionally) think Nazis gather?
I guess you're really desperate to sit at a table with fellow genocide deniers, but unfortunately for you, you'll not find your kind here. Try back on .ml.
Wow, straight to the genocide denier defamation, you‘re a real and absolutely unhinged class act.
I stand by my classification of this place as a Nazi bar. Just the other day your bartender colleague goat showed their racism, when confronted with their dumb perspectives on the (actual) Gaza genocide. This only adds to the pile for this community, which consists of hate speech (dehumanizing, ableism, othering), racism, genocide denial, propaganda, bad faith engagement.
I‘m just here to confront you with your bullshittery. Show onlookers and passerbys what this place is. And by not doing much at all, automatically tanking my holy social credit score.
Kind of funny, how you wonder what I‘m doing here, when you and your ilk are the ones actually stalking other communities in order to screenshot them, willfully misinterpret them, laugh at them. At least I am actually here, not cowardly gossiping about your ignorant takes in other communities.
What a sad collection of individuals you are. I wonder who‘s actually living in whose head.
Now, back to your deranged mud-slinging into the void:
So the „pro-genocide“ refers to the Uyghurs, as you‘ve now made clear with your outright defamation. And you are angry, because there are people that actually read and look through the evidence (which is more than you ever did) and determine that it‘s not a genocide, bring the receipts for it and also find that it‘s highly suspicious, that every information on this falls back on this Adrian Zenz character, some western three-letter-agency reports and really nothing else.
And you really wish that people would pay more attention to this, because you care so deeply about muslim minorities, right? Right?
Let’s move on.
Who are the fascists, tho? What‘s the bootlicking? Just trying to understand your weird takes.
The Chinese have enslaved their entire factory working population in effect, forcing hundreds of millions of small holders off their farms and into the cities, where they don't have residency, and are illegals, to work at factories on 6-12's, 6 days a week, 12 hours a day, for starvation wages. If they complain they can be jailed, beaten up, thrown out of town on a word from their employer.
I know what you are going to say, China outlawed 6-12's, but employers still make them work them and just pay them for the official hours. They have no benefits, no protection, no safety net. They sold out generations of their citizens to destitute poverty to garner western technology, and use the greed of wall street et al to build their factories for them in the process. All for investors to in effect arbitrage factory work, undercutting labor and environmental standards in a race to the bottom, building cheap, in foreign currencies, selling high in western currencies.
Their abuses of their citizens go well beyond the horrific way they've treated their restive minority populations.
Walk into a bar
"Wow, this is a total nazi bar, everyone in here is associating with nazis!"
Sits down, orders beer, starts talking to people
I got them tagged as "calls everyone nazi type of tankie" from earlier. Looks I chose accurately.
I got into it at chapotraphouse, not realizing what they were, thinking they were just super politically correct westerners. A couple decent ones told me, two score trolling messages deep after I offended their "eastern governments," as not an aspirational model for the west. But the few I made nice with that explained to me they were communists living outside the US didn't stop the rest. I quit responding after a bit, being flooded by multiple attacks. But they would follow me onto other threads and troll me, still do occasionally months later. When returning to their instance to make a few marginally popular comments, one responded with a link to the offending comment from months prior too, and sparked another wave of brigading. Meaning they somehow had my account flagged, and they likely have sort of enforcers as I gather. (edited for clarity.)
Plus I'm pretty sure some have accounts on other instances that they've came and trolled me with, one for sure I've got pegged, made right after the incident and not having many other comments that keeps popping up in other instances for the troll, one calling me a troll and telling everyone to block me and move on for instance, on a marginally downvoted comment I made arguing about the direction of the resistance. (edited for clarity.)
Talking to others about the defederation, which I was against moreso before talking and learning more about it, they are rather known for that. Making burner accounts and trolling people, and have chased off a lot of new users that wander onto their instance as I did. I think other tools should be used than defederation still, like a warning, having to opt in to even not have them blocked, which I've been told piefed has the tools to do.
I might make a piefed account as well here at some point after researching which one, the lemmy I'm on is great though just lacking in some functionality aspects like context, I can't respond to comments not directed to me on that chain of comments from there but would have to find it in all comments under my instances view for instance as context takes me to the other instance's page. But I hear there are extensions I'm supposed to be using so I need to try that.
if you really feel that way why the fuck did you come back, if we're not 'your kind of nazis'
what a strange self own.
I can't believe I would defame you with something you admit in the very same comment, how inaccurate of me.
Fascist bootlickers really just can't help yourselves, can you?
Ya, so easy to dismiss anything like that, real good faith commentary.
See, that would be a useful answer, if I actually stated, that I agreed with this stuff. But I want to know from you, PugJesus, if you read the evidence and actually disagree with it and if so, why?
And now you just call me a fascist bootlicker, how ridiculous are you?
Answer my questions, I‘ll repeat them:
Who are the fascists? What‘s the bootlicking?
lmao
Coward.
im curious, nazi, can you tell me what my perspective was?