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[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I’d definitely put any names in there in the category of guilty until proven innocent, in this specific circumstance. Every name in those files should be under investigation.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I agree, they should get investigated! But being investigated doesn't mean someone is guilty.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

They need to prove innocence rather than it being presumed. This isn’t a normal circumstance and treating it as one is specifically why it was enabled to get as far as it did, we all know our legal system is broke and I don’t think pretending the ideals we would prefer to uphold are how things really work is going to pave a path to disarming these monsters. This situation needs to be treated with the regard that it warrants and laws and systems need to be dismantled and changed because of it, otherwise we are just resetting the game for a new player. The pedophile ring and every law and system that allowed it to succeed completely unscathed and lacking meaningful consequences up to this point needs to be burned and protected against. We need to disarm the ability of these fucks to keep doing this, and leniency and coddling of the shattered and useless remains of the constitution have been proven to do nothing in the face of this kind of malice. They need it to hurt if it’s ever going to stop.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Why are people always so eager to throw away the 4th and 5th amendments whenever they're inconvenient

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

This is part of an ongoing investigation about a known child sex trafficking organization involving the worlds most powerful people. Why would they not be obligated to investigate everyone involved or mentioned? What fucking slack is there to give to anyone who had a possibility of having a part in it? If they’re not hiding anything then they’ll have nothing to worry about, but considering the context everything involved with these files deserves proper scrutiny.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Why would they not be obligated to investigate everyone involved or mentioned?

They should investigate everyone they have probable cause to investigate. That's actually what most of these files are, records of investigations. That's not what "guilty until proven innocent" means. Presumption of innocence is a cornerstone of everything our justice system does right and I'm not willing to sacrifice it for a hate boner.

What fucking slack is there to give to anyone who had a possibility of having a part in it

Approximately 2/10ths of a bill of rights worth of slack.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I’m not a constitutionalist, I say check those who have lied with the dogs for fleas.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And I say if these rights don't matter for everybody they don't matter for anybody and fuck any authoritarian dickeeed who wants to water them down, whether it's trump or you.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

That’s just the thing, though, they don’t apply to everyone. That’s specifically how we got here. These rights don’t apply to us, only those in power. Until they matter to everyone then they shouldn’t matter to rich elites in contact with a literal pedophile business empire.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think the solution is to consent to more and more exceptions. We should be demanding an end to the thing you're advocating in favor of.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I don’t think the solution is to cut slack for people who were involved with, again, the premium subscriber global child ~~sex~~ rape trafficking business, especially when that’s what we’ve been doing that dragged us into this mess. There are much better places to start than people mentioned in reports in an ongoing investigation that we 100% know, without a doubt, is about children getting raped and sold.