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@elrainia@lemmy.world describes working on internet infrastructure back in the 1990s. This was on one of those "drive by" AskLemmys where a new user posts a juicy question, then after a couple hours they delete the topic and their account. However, those posts and comments are still visible in Piefed, ex: https://piefed.social/post/1733969#comment_9969293

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[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

...a new user posts a juicy question, then after a couple hours they delete the topic and their account.

Well shit, that ain't good. Yay PieFed, via the recent update.


Interesting that the date chosen is 1990, as the early WWW was just getting going at that point, and a big leap forward. Ideally, it was common for WWW "pages" to include custom layouts / formats that was much harder to achieve using the Internet, which began in the 60's.

Me, I was still using BBS's at the time, barely had any contact with the traditional internet, and didn't hit the WW until the mid-to-late 90's, so totally missed out on those early days. Seriously, I wonder what they were like..?

Like Ed Grimley, I must say though-- using a 300baud modem in 1990 was pretty 'stone knives and bearskins' stuff!

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yeah, no one sane was still using a 300 baud modem in 1990. 1200 and 2400 baud would have been the bog standard.

[–] Elrainia@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The 300 baud was 1983-84. We must have been near the era of 14400 by 1990, but yeah, definitely 2400.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're more or less right, 9600bps modems did exist in the late 80s, but no mere mortal owned them 14.4k came not long after and became really common. I actually saved up and got one of the first 19.2k modems on the market when I was a teen in 93 or so, but almost nothing was compatible with it so it was usually just 14.4k or 9600 if you tried to connect to anything.

Technically, its gets weird because in the late 80s baud and bits per second kind of diverged because of the way the protocols were able to encode data better. I don't think anything actually went higher than 2400 baud though we kept using baud and bps interchangeably.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

In '87-88 I distinctly remember a Mac BBS in the Philly area called "19 East," so named because it was run from a 19K bps modem. (EDIT yeah, actually it was probably 9600) I recall that modem being expensive for the time, but not absurdly so. But still, not something we college kids would typically own.

A 2400baud modem in the late 80's was perfectly fine for normal BBS access / use, and would only bog down a bit for downloading warez, which of course was a super-common activity those days.

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[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't see any 19.2k modems until 92-93 and I was obsessed with finding one, so that's either very impressive or another case of one of us remembering poorly as alluded to in the post. :)

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 2 points 19 hours ago

Yeah, checking just now, 19k seems highly unlikely for that date. I think it was probably 9600 bps, instead. Memory sure does get garbled, easily...