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[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The FDR quote is extremely dubious; I've never seen any actual source showing that he said it. If anything, FDR was very vocal about the importance of elections. You might prefer this great, authentic one for future use, though:

An election cannot give a country a firm sense of direction if it has two or more national parties which merely have different names but are as alike in their principles and aims as peas in the same pod.

—FDR, Fireside Chat, June 24, 1938

The tweet, of course, is fucking nonsense. Here's the wording used in the survey:

(Asked of 499 Voters Who Are More Likely To Vote In The Democratic Presidential Primary) If the 2028 Democratic Primary Election were held today, and the presidential candidates were Kamala Harris, California Gov. Gavin Newsom, New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker, New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, Maryland Gov. Wes Moore and former Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg, who would you vote for?

As far as I can tell, this was not commissioned by "they" (the DNC). Who the fuck else were Rasmussen supposed to include? Genuinely, that statistically any of those 499 voters would have picked and are likely to run in 2028? That is a very plausible list of candidates, and the only absence I can think of who has any buzz is Mark Kelly. This isn't manufacturing consent; this is a poll designed to return useful data. "Instead of deciding who you want"? Yeah, no shit; that's because primaries are limited to people who are popular and determined enough to get on the ballot. Would it have actually made a difference if they'd put "Other (please specify)"? Not realistically, no, and you're lying to yourself if you think otherwise.

If anything, not including a list of candidates would likely even further centralize the responses around one or two well-known candidates, because most voters aren't familiar enough with politics to keep track of potential primary candidates.

This complaint is incoherent.

[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Welcome to “sabby sabs” and Lemmy. Where some random shit from a conservative pollster is of course an indictment of the liberal party. This sort of nonsensical dribble was all over Lemmy last election and will likely pick up more into mid terms.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've never heard of Sabs before, but I hope I don't have to see more of her if the rest are like this. This post is like ideological vomit with half-digested chunks of sentiments I agree with, and it mimics the beats of an actual point but with none of the substance. It's clearly ragebait, but it seems more difficult to make up bullshit like this than it would be to just discuss real problems.

[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You’ll begin to notice it’s always vectored inward towards liberals and never anywhere else.

Up is down, left is right, Biden is Hitler and never a peep about anything else. Like this post, the flimsiest of bullshit just to paint liberals as the villains telling YOU what to think… based on Rasmussen?

[–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's not always targeted at liberals, when we target Republicans you assume we are one of you.

FYI, liberals are one of the villians

[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Case in point. You’re not talking to a republican you’re talking to someone who generally agrees with you and would otherwise be an ally… but you posted nonsense! Enemies aside your shit makes no sense and yet it had a very SPECIFIC direction…

It’s telling how you reply to me calling out the meta and not the poster who literally spelled out how full of crap your post was.

Everyone is a villain, especially those closest to you on a political spectrum. You offer nothing constructive and of all points you want to make liberals into the boogyman. Downvote, move on, thank you for electing Trump.

[–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago

It did have a specific direction because that's the route you took by claiming leftists never punch further than Democrats. I was pointing out we do. You see it as a shit post because it triggers your cognitive dissonance that your political choices have been manufactured for you.

FYI, liberals are not closest to socialists and communists on the political scale, they are further now than they were 20 years ago. Today's political scale overlaid with one from 1980 would have liberals to the far right of Reagan, and that's what stems much of their anger at us, that we refuse to move to the right with them.

We are not allies, liberals want to reform systems founded on white supremacy into something they are more comfortable with, something they don't have to face or hear about. We want to dismantle white supremacy and the systems that prop it up.