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[–] worhui@lemmy.world 75 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

This an an absolutely exceptional claim that would put the company decades beyond any tech I have seen. They are claiming remote control of a complicated animal in flight. They also claim it is without training and over distances impossible for a bird as small as a pigeon to carry radio gear.

This is not believable without any evidence.

[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 1 points 24 minutes ago

Indeed "thousands of km" is far fetched:

some of which are expected to be sent thousands of kilometers away while others remain in Moscow for further trials.

[–] in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social 27 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Propaganda mills run 24hrs in time of war. All sectors of industry are often involved.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_Propaganda_Works

I absolutely do not believe these claims until they're independently verified

[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

I’m not sure propaganda has ever been more intense and widespread than it is now with ubiquitous tech addiction

[–] worhui@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

That is what I was getting out without trying to use the loaded words.

[–] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 8 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

according to Forbes Russia and a company statement

duh

edit: as for radio, if it's not required to be realtime it would make a lot of sense to carry sd cards instead, provides lower energy consumption too

[–] OptimusPrimeDownfall@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

You are putting a lot of faith in a people that can't even build a competent tank.

[–] vacuumflower 1 points 16 minutes ago

You do, of course, understand that this has nothing in common with building a tank?

You do also understand that (just guessing) if you're from a German instance, then probably everyone of consequence involved in designing military hardware in Russia has better knowledge of their domain area than people analogous to them from German MIC and military? Simply due to experience gained. That does apply to tanks.

Anyway. I don't know if it's real, but you just go and read whose company it is. It might be.

[–] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 hours ago

I know I'm just theorizing

[–] worhui@lemmy.world -1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

This is a remote control situation. The bird would do bird things once out of a control signal. They aren't claiming full override and programming. I could easily see strapping a camera to a pigeon and training it. Maybe even remotely monitoring it and using a pre-trained electrical pulse to change direction.

These claims are beyond that. This is possibly the equivalent of scientist cures cancer where a reported misunderstands what is actually being presented.

[–] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 0 points 12 hours ago

yea true, they did mention preloading flight paths, so it might be radio-less (apart from gps ig)

[–] moonshadow@slrpnk.net 2 points 10 hours ago

If it's like the bug experiments, they aren't controlling its muscles granularly but guiding the whole critter through pain/aversion. Going left hurts, bird goes right type deal

[–] vacuumflower 1 points 10 minutes ago

I've heard of the particular people behind that particular company achieving similar things 12 years ago with, eh, humans. That's of the "bloody regime horror stories" genre. There will be no proof.

Also honestly

would put the company decades beyond any tech I have seen

why not? They have plenty of money and expertise. Something you don't want to believe? Too bad, neither do I.