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What am I missing with Matrix? (herbicide.fallcounty.omg.lol)

submitted 19 hours ago by klymilark@herbicide.fallcounty.omg.lol to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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I will be upfront with this, and say that I've never been a huge fan. But I did reinstall a Matrix server, and some clients to see if it'd gotten better in the year or so since I've last used it.

This just... Kind of feels like a more centralized XMPP with group chat folders that sort of function? The spaces feature is neat, but I've tried 4-5 clients, and every single one of those throws all of them into the same screen as the DMs by default, and I can't find a way to change that.

Am I missing something here? Like. I want to at least see what people like here, I just can't.

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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml -1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

Matrix starting development under Israeli company Amdocs is enough for me to never touch it with a 10 foot pole no matter its rebranding and move to become a "UK" company.

[–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

You can self-host it and there's even a full rewrite in Rust available, which AFAIK is independent of the company.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Element is still a main client and it's the same people who worked for Amdocs in the past.

Everything about it screams "backdoor" to me including a supposed dev of it showing up and talking about how ethical and super duper cool the Israeli company actually is https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36020947

User: "...Furthermore, 6 Israelis working for Amdocs were deported in 2002 for spying on the US. That’s not just a conspiracy theory. Its a seriously concerning fact."

Alleged dev: "I saw absolutely zero evidence or interest in malicious activity while working at Amdoc..."

And

"They didn’t pay big money - they funded a ~15 person team for a few years".

Because we all know bankrolling 15 devs for years is super cheap.

Their history is shady enough for me to not even consider it.

[–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

What's Amdoc? Some association of American doctors?

Forgive me, I'm a citizen of an EU country no one gives a shit about and that has successfully "exported" a prime minister to a neighboring country.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago

An Israeli software company which has been caught making spyware multiple times

[–] klymilark@herbicide.fallcounty.omg.lol 1 points 8 hours ago

Yeah... I'd seen some stuff with that, just didn't mention it because I hadn't looked into it too hard. The one I'm trying is a fork of a rewrite of the original server software by unrelated devs. I did try Element, but there's nothing on the server that I actually care about.