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[–] ttyybb@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've seen Stoat thrown around, I think the best swap right now is to matrix though.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

No. Matrix is totally not the same vibe.

Stoat is great, but they need to release voice to self hosted still.

[–] ttyybb@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

I've been using Element for a bit and IMHO it's a pretty similar vibe

[–] tyrant@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yeah I've tried both. Stoat looks good and seems like the best option for similar organization but matrix seems better in terms of privacy. If matrix wasn't so clumsy it would be hands down the best option.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago

It is so fucking clumsy. I hate it.

[–] GreyCat@piefed.social 1 points 15 hours ago

Fluxer seems pretty good.

[–] ttyybb@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

A friend recently sent me this there seem to be plenty to try out

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

This is false. For Stoat voice is not available to self hosted still, and the primary channel is not available.

[–] craigers@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

I've tried most of these. A lot seem more geared towards slack alternatives or more like work chat type things. Voice chat is critical and some lack it or have it tacked on. Teamspeak is the opposite which text chat is tacked on. The closest alts right now are stoat, fluxer and root. Fluxer and stoat and open source, root is VC funded. I'm pushing for fluxer personally. But he is getting hug of death at the moment.