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I feel like I don't know the details and we won't ever. If there is a real threat of attack against the US with a big risk of mass civilian casualties from some foreign operatives, and we have a way to take them out even with putting civilians at risk, there could be a case where it's the right thing to do. Really tough call, of course. And I'm very glad that I don't have to make such calls.
Such things need oversite and actual (US) illegal actions need to be remedied. But a lot of the information regarding it is very sensitive and we likely wont ever be privy to it. So it comes down to trust. You are very right not to trust the government, and I certainly don't trust the current U.S. administration; but ai'm still willing to give Obama the benefit of doubt.
I feel like you watched way too much "24". These strikes are not about thwarting immediate terror threats, they are about serving US (corporate) "interests"
Actually I found "24" too stressful and disturbing to watch.
What were the corporate interests in the strikes that Obama ordered?
It always comes back to natural resources, generally oil. That's not necessarily the reason for specific strikes, but they are always in service to developing or maintaining "cooperative" local governments.
What might really blow your mind is how culturally liberal much of the middle east used to be. Then came the global oil rush and the decision that reactionary theocratic governments were easier to control. Western intelligence agencies are largely responsible for the level of religious extremism and violence we see today. In fact, it worked so well that they decided to try it at home in America. That's the short version of how we got exactly where we are today.
Yes, but you're speaking in generalities, mostly historic. I don't think that's fair to lump that all on Obama without specific examples.
We can't accuse Obama of doing the normal thing that America has always done without examples, but we can exonerate him of doing so on the basis that he was thwarting unidentified terror plots? You don't think your showing a little bias?
Has Obama even made claims that any such terror plots existed? It's also kind of funny that, with all these terror plots getting foiled on a nearly daily basis, we were still willing to leave Afghanistan. And then, miraculously, no terror plots happened despite us not sending in drones to stop them.
I m so sick of the us power giving it the depraved privilege to justify destruction and murder. Fuck you and your disgusting country of coward killers, child molesters and nazis.
Agreed. But I can see that sometimes one has to be a bad guy to protect themselves from bad guys. The U.S. definitely overreaches with that a lot, way way too much. And child molestors and Nazis should not be tolerated; which the U.S. is also failing at rn.
I really see very little difference between this "you have to be a bad guy to protect yourself against bad guys"and the shit stephen miller is pulling out today. If you start goose stepping there is a point where the rest of the world will think of you as a nazi. And there is only one "good type" of nazi.