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Many of us know how bad modern cars are for privacy. Yet many of our friends and neighbors do not realize how intrusive it really is. I linked a blog entry from Mozilla's investigation about car privacy. In that blog is a link to their make-by-make analysis. The amount of very intimate information a modern car collects is honestly appalling. It includes health data, real time mood information, weight gain or loss, and so on. And it does so even for passengers.

The web has many resources talking about this problem, but almost no resources on what to do about it. I know the simple thing is to say, "just drive an old car bro!" That's fine if you can, but not everyone can. Also it has drawbacks like more maintenance. Sometimes less safety if it's older than certain safety features. For the purpose of this thread, it is more interesting to focus on newer, surveillance enabled cars which are the majority of what people drive on the road today.

Some people have figured out how to bypass the surveillance package on some cars. One way is to uncouple the antenna it uses to phone home. Other times you can bypass the telematics module or remove a fuse that powers it. I feel like we really need a central model by model repository of information.

Past that, how do we prove it has worked, if we do it? Has anyone reading this tried to use an RF detector to see if their car is still trying to phone home, after they have bypassed telematics? What are your experiences? I want to buy one and use it to test my own car, but the info on the web seems sketch.

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[–] FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Slate seems to be the only brand currently that intends to deliver vehicles with zero connectivity required.

Do you mean these guys? That's the first I heard of them so thank you for that! I thought it would turn out to be a European make, but they're on my side of the pond. A zero-connectivity electric car would be the dream. I like the idea of electric cars but so far they have all been even more wrapped up in telematics than internal combustion cars.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 8 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Yes, zero connectivity, relatively affordable, highly customizeable, and repair-friendly (for now). The only connectivity is through the phone app. Only downside is you have to buy a stupid truck. They could have made it a lot cheaper as a coupe.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Not really true for pricing. A small truck isn't much more weight or material than a sedan.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 1 hour ago

It's nothing to do with weight or material but aerodynamics.

[–] jmill@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

I think it's a truck for regulatory reasons. Trucks get a pass on a bunch of things that can be a regulatory issue for cars, because of course they do.

They are offering kits to make it a van or SUV. Still no coupe, but better than a truck for many purposes.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 5 hours ago
[–] FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

They could have made it a lot cheaper as a coupe.

Maybe if it sees market success, they'll branch out into other body styles. I want a car too, not a truck.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 5 points 14 hours ago

That would be nice. But then I'd be driving around in my stupid truck like an idiot!