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Proton has ties to Israel. What's a safe alternative? (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 day ago by Yliaster@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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Proton VPN/mail. It's often recommended as being safe, but I'm not so sure.

It has servers in Israel. Ties to Israel are never a good thing. Palantir, Epstein, etc are tied to Israel, and Israel also is known for its surveillance. It is also true that it's completely legal there for them to access and monitor any and all information that passes through VPNs or networks there.

I'm looking for a safe alternative that's privacy-conscious and isn't linked to Israel. Both mail and vpn (it's fine if they're separate). Please let me know if you guys know.

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[–] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sure bro, the country that ended nazi germany is actually nazi.

[–] belluck@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Regardless of your opinion of 1940s Russia, don’t you think countries change over time?

[–] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 1 points 21 hours ago

Everything can change. But i dont think (and im totally open to changing my mind upon seeing arguments) russia became nazi. People who say this usually look at fascism from a moral, not a scientific point of view

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

USSR helped end Nazi Germany but nice revisionism lmao 🤡 Current day russia is 100% fash

[–] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Helped? Helped who actually? Who was the main combatent that was helped?

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeahh I am not gonna participate in your little revisionist spiel, you can be delulu all on your own buddy.

[–] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Thanks, i was already getting dumber from this conversation