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[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

went to school in Spain, better education than USA, But still eurocentric

point being that plenty of European colonials who did what Hitler did, but to the Colonial perifery are treated as heroes.

[–] ozymandias@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I do appreciate your perspective...

I went to an American school with a good system in elementary, even had a "gifted program" for smarter kids... and then a shitty one when we moved. Each state is like its own country in a lot of ways.
But well for one, European countries are bound to be more upset when they themselves are attacked just because it's themselves getting attacked....
For two, by that time imperialism was no longer seen as an okay thing to do... A lot of countries kept their colonies but they weren't invading new countries or outright enslaving people anymore.
For three, the Nazis were industrially exterminating an entire race out of pure spite. The only other comparible level of extermination would be America (sorry btw... At least im enough Native American that I get to hate myself... Plus I'm part Pawnee... A tribe that helped the US military hunt other tribes out of revenge)[Lakotas basically genocided the Pawnee right before white people showed up]
But even that was more about not being able to fight them... Not just killing them to kill them...
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At least we can bask in our white guilt together.
Spain sure has a terrible history in the Americas.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

i won't deny that Nazi Germany was the worst. I'm not trying to downplay them. just what they did was what Europe has been doing and was currently doing to the rest of the world. Not sure if that counts as the imperial boomerang. but it's similar. Europe spent centuries colonizing and conducting ethnic cleansings and genocides whenever it pleased, until one European nation decided to do that to Europe.

Fascism was definitely a form of the imperial boomerang, when the colonial government abuse and absolute power it held in the colonial perifery was imported into the nation proper.

I have family that escaped Poland who told me all my family that stayed where killed. But we shouldn't let history white wash the rest of Europe either.