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Graphene vs /e/ os (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 day ago by MostRegularPeople@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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A question as old as time, I know.

I'm getting away from Google and I've done the easy stuff: CoMaps, Proton mail (I know, not the best move), aveslibre, etc. I currently don't have the time (or the knowledge base) to learn how to self host, but hopefully that will replace Drive and such in the future.

But I digress. I'm looking at a new OS for my phone. I'm currently in a contract with a phone that is incompatible with alternative OSs. Graphene needs a Pixel. Used, they're $150-400. /e/OS will run on a Motorola or whatever and those are like $80.

There's also the option of going full Fairphone with /e/os and I like that idea in the future.

The internet people tell me that Graphene is the best due to ease of installation, privacy, and security.

I don't need a lot of security. I just want Google to stop suckling all that sweet, sweet data from my teat.

What are your thoughts?

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[–] persona_non_gravitas@piefed.social 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

IMHO if you only care about Google sucking your data and not other privacy/security, the most important question isn't between OSes as much as it's between:

No Google apps (GAPPS); honestly good ol' LineageOS is just fine. If you don't install Google spyware you don't have Google spyware, just the connectivity check and dns. Which you can probably change.
MicroG; open source GAPPS replacement that tries to send as little data as possible to Google, while keeping Play store apps & push notifications working. /e/, iodé, Lineage for MicroG, Lineage but add microG manually during installation, formerly CalyxOS...
Add GAPPS but try to handicap it somehow (incl. GrapheneOS work profile isolation); I don't remember if it's eg. possible to block them from accessing the Internet on non-GrapheneOS phones, by app permissions or eg. NetGuard?

If we're taking into account other privacy and security, then GrapheneOS by a mile.

[–] FrostyPolicy@suppo.fi 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

block them from accessing the Internet on non-GrapheneOS phones

This is an important feature in GrapheneOS. You can deny network access for any app.

[–] skarn@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago

Yeah, /e/OS too, and so I assume also LineageOS and the rest.

[–] persona_non_gravitas@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

~~Is it only Graphene? I vaguely recall having had it on DivestOS (RIP), which was a Lineage fork.~~

Edit: Any app, duh, yes, silly me. Don't remember if it was possible for all of them.

[–] FrostyPolicy@suppo.fi 4 points 1 day ago

Not all built-in apps had that option but for everything else you can.