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[–] MrNobody@quokk.au 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Beginning in the late 19th century, as the trade union and labor movements grew, trade unionists proposed that a day be set aside to celebrate labor. "Labor Day" was promoted by the Central Labor Union and the Knights of Labor, which organized the first parade in New York City. By the time it became an official federal holiday in 1894, thirty states in the U.S. officially celebrated Labor Day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_Day

The unions chose the date, the state followed years and years later.

[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Oh I know. They co-opted the date to make it unamerican to celebrate labour day. What is baffling me is that you guys just let them do it.

[–] MrNobody@quokk.au 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

What?

It’s an official holiday, that’s state recognition of it to celebrate it, not make it unamerican.

And it was first made an official holiday before Europe made May Day a holiday. Based on a date chosen by unions.

You’re complaining that workers celebrated an event before Europe and didn’t retroactively follow your date. What eurocentric anti-worker shit is that?

[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I am complaining that

It was in this environment that Loyalty Day (originally called "Americanization Day") was created in 1921 as an explicit replacement for International Workers' Day.[6][5]

I have no clue what you are rambling on about.

[–] MrNobody@quokk.au 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

And I’m talking about Labour Day, the day to recognise labour movements and their achievements.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Day

Loyalty Day is not a holiday, Labour Day is and Americans celebrate it. It predates May Day, which is why they don’t celebrate May Day.

[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I am not, but if I were I would probably point out that the capitalist class have co-opted this as well and replaced the material contents of the, ehrm, "holiday," as you call it.

To take advantage of large numbers of potential customers with time to shop, Labor Day has become an important weekend for discounts and allowances by many retailers in the United States, especially for back-to-school sales. Some retailers claim it is one of the largest sale dates of the year, second only to the Christmas season's Black Friday.[40]

Well, but what do I know? Maybe the international May day is flawed and that actually American exceptionalism will reshape the mode of production by going on a shopping spree on their "holiday".

EDIT: I realize that you might be confused about me calling May day for Labour day, which is solely a direct translation from what we call May day here. I still stand by everything of the above though.

[–] MrNobody@quokk.au -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How is it American exceptionalism to do something first?

It is Euro arrogance to expect the world to change to suit your choice at a later date.

[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

It is American exceptionalism to disregard the fascist suppression of the proletariat on the basis of having your own very special holiday. Also because of the blatant disregard for the international labour movement.