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Noticed this in 148.0 for desktop

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[–] IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip 90 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Broken record chiming in: it should be opt-in, not opt-out.

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 19 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I chose to opt out of having Firefox installed. Gave me an opportunity to use the very satisfying but rarely used apt purge function.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Waterfox or Librewolf or what you trying now?

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Librewolf, but also have Floorp and Vivaldi installed. How's Waterfox going these days? Feel like I haven't looked at that in ages.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I havent used it myself but a buddy of mine is really liking it.

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago (2 children)
[–] XLE@piefed.social 6 points 11 hours ago

Waterfox did better consumer advocacy in a single blog post than the entire multimillion-dollar Mozilla Foundation has pumped out over the past two years.

Oh nice, that good to hear.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 7 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Broken record 2 chiming in. None of these features do anything unless you use them so they effectively are opt-in. Turning off the settings gets rid of the UI elements that are how you'd use them, which is excellent.

Additionally, a setting to automatically disable future features is a very strong acknowledgement of and empowerment for strongly anti-AI users.

Up until now I have agreed with the crowd upset at how FF as handled AI features, but at this point you are just upset because you want to be.

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

I'd like to choose to opt out of Firefox spending donation money on features the community explicitly states that they do NOT want

[–] XLE@piefed.social 9 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

If Mozilla didn't pester you with notifications about AI tab grouping and AI page summaries, congratulations. It's still sapped limited time and resources away from fixing bugs and implementing features that aren't as controversial.

[–] Auth@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They've commented on this. The time spent on this did not "take away from time spent on other things". The features were worked on by a few people who wanted to build those features. From a Mozilla employee in a hacker news thread.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

So Mozilla did not pay the people that worked on, tested, and approved these features?

[–] Auth@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

I actually couldnt find any public info to back up my comment so maybe a HN comment wasnt enough to go off. But Idk if announcing they partnered with OpenAI to integrate it would even improve things given their current actions.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev -2 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Can't disagree that I'd rather the time be spent elsewhere, but firefox needs to be a big tent that isn't only targeted to tech savvy or anti AI people. I'll also admit I turned off smart tab group in about:config as soon as I saw it, but rather than "pestering" it was just a button in the tab group UI? I don't even know how to do link previews so it definitely never pestered me there. Local language translation is actively useful and far more desirable that using remote services.

Another point about pulling time away from other development... The same time period these were implemented is also when they finally started doing things people definitely like such as tab groups and vertical tabs so it sure doesn't seem like they're too tight in resources.

Tldr; firefox is for everyone and being mad that they implemented features you don't use is entitled bullshit

[–] emmy67@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Isn't that what add on are for?

[–] XLE@piefed.social 6 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

The opposite of pro-AI isn't anti-AI. It's non-AI. Mozilla has a community forum to solicit feedback. Nobody used it to ask for AI. Instead, Mozilla repeatedly used it to announce they were going to push AI features on their community.

People aren't converting to Mozilla because it has AI. They were never going to convert to Mozilla because they added a shopping toolbar, either. These are things that should have never been put into the browser. They're certainly alienating their existing users by trying to bleed them dry, though.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev -3 points 12 hours ago

The opposite of pro-AI isn’t anti-AI. It’s non-AI.

You've lost your damn mind

[–] NightFantom@slrpnk.net 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

You also don't use an adblocker I guess?

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 2 points 13 hours ago

No idea why you'd think that....