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Should anybody trust Firefox again unless they put "we won't sell your data" back into the privacy policy? (Have they done so...? I can't tell.) (leminal.space)

submitted 18 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) by ell1e@leminal.space to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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Firefox is trying to gain back user trust with this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=O-xyNkvIB9g

This is a legit question: Should anybody trust Firefox again unless they put "we won't sell your data" back into the privacy policy? I'm actually not sure if they haven't already done so, let me elaborate:

https://brave.com/privacy/browser/ Brave: "We do not sell, trade, or transfer your information to any third parties." This seems to obviously be in the legally binding text part. As is this one: "It’s Brave’s policy to not collect personal data1 unless it’s necessary to provide services to our users, or to meet certain legal obligations. We do not buy or sell personal data about consumers." (Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer.)

However, for Firefox it seems ambiguous to me, which worries me: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/firefox/#notice There is no appearance of "sell" in the entire privacy document, excpet for the top summary where i'm not sure if it's at all legally non-binding.

Does anybody know if it is legally binding? If Mozilla were serious about it, why would they leave it ambiguous whether it is...?

Based on that, I'm not sure if Mozilla's video about getting users back is worth trusting. I wonder if it's just me.

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[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Same boat. Used Mozilla since back when you had to futz to get it to compile.

Fuck Mozilla. Fuck FireFox.

LibreWolf fixed what the Foundation and Board enahittified.

[–] Libb@piefed.social 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I feel more sadness than anger. Like I feel a lot more sad realizing younger people will probably not be able to experiment a free and truly personal web, like the elders among us did. That corporate-free Web used to be the norm... with its clumsiness and its many quirks, its ability to tolerate conflicting opinions too. Now, everything is policed and so... neutered. It's also ad-saturated. It has turned into a TV, just worse.

Seeing Mozilla take that pitiful road made we feel a lot more sadness than anger, really. They were one of the few that were supposed to stand for another model. But I was not that surprised either...

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 1 points 7 hours ago

Slap yourself. Don't accept defeat. Rage, rage against the dying of the 'net