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Why? Florida adamantly opposes relief for other states hit by hurricanes. Conservatives have worked tirelessly for the last several decades to make sure Florida has more hurricanes every year. They have done everything in their power to fuck the environment as hard as they possible can. Let them suffer exactly as they insist.
If we insist on letting the conservative leaches continue to take and take from the normal states, let's at least have fun with it. Let's call the money given to them "Biden Bucks". I bet we'd save quite a bit of money that way!
Contrary to your opinion, an ideal President’s job is not to start or participate in civil or cultural wars. It is to help all of us. Even the ones who “don’t deserve it”. Denying aid also only plays into “their” hand. People who vote against government often complain that it’s never done anything for them. If it misses an opportunity to serve citizens, that failure only further chips away at the institution and democracy.
Republicans want that to happen. They have shown clearly at least since Nixon and neoliberalism that they want only one thing: to overthrow the people’s government entirely and replace it entirely with corporate capitalist overlords.
Much like I will openly criticize the Chinese or Russian governments, I do not wish harm on Chinese or Russian people who are the ones that suffer from those officials, I will also criticize Flordia and other southern states but wish only good things for citizens in those states.
All of us are victims of gerrymandering and corporate lobbying. Individuals should not suffer because of the negligence or greed of their leaders, many of which do not support those people.
Yes. Several articles have come out recently discussing US intel on the impact of Chinese and Russian propaganda influence on the American people. This is further proof that many people have been preyed on.
Your position is reasonable and I don't disagree with it. But I am not going to be polite about helping dangerous people who insist we are enemies. There is no such thing as a "good fascist".
Florida residents are just as much - if not more - victims of fascism as residents of California.
Plenty of fiorida residents oppose these fascists, but fuck them countrymen I guess.
Thanks for engaging with my thoughts.
I don’t support or condone fascism in any form, my point was that in times of natural disaster, aid should be extended to all citizens, regardless of their political views. Denying aid based on political beliefs can perpetuate divisiveness and mistrust in institutions meant to serve everyone. In my view, denying aid due to this would be itself a form of fascism, totalitarianism, authoritarianism, and so on.
We may disagree on certain points, but let’s not lose sight of the larger goal: a fair and just society for all.
Because it's the right thing to do.
The people don't deserve to suffer just because they're too stupid to vote for a competent leader.
It's not stupidity. It's malice. Conservatives are malicious. They are proud of their malice, boasting about it at every opportunity. Pretending they are good folks who just don't know any better is how fascism continues to grow.
Never give a conservative the benefit of the doubt. They will use it to harm you every time.
The rest of the country doesn't have to stoop to the level people like Trump and Desantis. There are innocent people in Florida who don't deserve to be thrown under the bus just because of where they live.
I agree. Let's make the offer of aid optional per resident and label it something fun. Obama-bail-outs. Hilary-help. Biden-bucks. Let the conservatives decide if they want the help or if they want to put their money where their mouth is regarding "handouts".
Not the worst idea. Could take a "help those who help themselves" approach. Lead a horse to water and all that.
The Biden-bonus, the Joe cash-flow, Biden-benevolence, Democratic-donation. There's a lot of room for creativity there.
Jokes aside, even if you ignore the morality of the situation, doing this is good for Biden's PR, especially if he wants to reach across the isle for people who have been wavering, or if he wants to convince fence-sitters that his side isn't quite as bad as the other side, or that he isn't only pandering to his "team".
Because the federal system is supposed to work to provide joint support for states in extraordinary need - and example of government doing what it is meant to to do in a order fashion, irrespective of political considerations is a good reminder of why it is worth voting in a functional government