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I agree completely, i've seen an example of this recently :
I also have a list of examples of things that are not fallacies, just poor debate skills:
If i had to pick one though i'd probably go with the Invincible ignorance fallacy
100% agree that this is a big problem, it's not the only one, but a big one.
I'm expecting it to work on a multiplicative curve, exponential ? geometric?
All of the bits from various places will add up and continue to accumulate momentum towards the goal.
Which is again, not the point and also incorrect.
Highlighting this as another example of the continuous creep towards end goal while explaining the increasing encroachment is incredibly useful for getting more eyes on the bigger picture.
because.....the issue isn't the PR , but the intent behind it.
If it was just about the PR itself in isolation, i'd agree with you.
If anything, you trying to shut down the discussion around this "silly" PR is doing more to harm the general increase in awareness.
https://lemmy.nz/post/35765225
And more comments about systemd but 0 talk about the legislation. So far I don't see any confirmation for you theory that talking about systemd helps promote this issue and fight the legislation.
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edit: changed emphasis
I get your point but all I see is still just people talking about slippery slopes and what they think will come next in very general terms. With Chat Control for example the discussion was a lot more concrete. He had information about very specific legislation and how it was progressing through the legislation and we had pressure campaigns on EU and national levels. It was so much different than complaining about some software complying with the law and how it should be resisting it instead. I simply think focusing so much on systemd is pointless and it's not helping with the issue at all.
But at this point it's just my personal opinion and I might very well be wrong about it. I sure hope this will serve as some catalyst that will let people focus on the actual issue and fight it effectively. Right now I don't see any effective action, only distractions, but since I'm not doing anything useful regarding this either I should just let people do what they see fit. Even if it's just venting.
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/65894673
Just more comments about how they will force ID checks in the future. 0 discussion about actual legislation or any useful organizing.
Hmmm.... maybe you're right. I will follow the comments more closely to see what part of them talks about fighting the actual legislation and what part just talks about abandoning systemd. My sensation so far was that people were focusing almost exclusively on forking the project and creating pointless alternative distros but maybe it was just my bias.
I agree that if talking about systemd would serve to inform people about the legislation and abolish it (or prevent the next one) it would be actually useful. Recently we've seen couple of fairly successful actions like complaining about Android's developer verification to EU, complaining about planned backdoors in E2E encryption in EU or writing to EU about open source in general. All this was done before changes were actually enacted and in reaction to concrete proposals, not as weird attacks on unrelated projects after the law was already passed and complaining about some general and gradual "slippery slope" style attacks on privacy. But maybe the other tactic will also work. I guess we'll see.