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i agree… the fact that public health care does, given the rigorous structures that are in place to follow medical advice, does though
We see this pretty differently. I take the fact that insurance covers chiro to be evidence that insurance doesn’t know what the fuck it’s doing. You assume insurance know what they’re doing and take them as evidence that chiro must have value.
Taking assumptions out of it, what medical literature tells us is that chiropractic can be used to help alleviate lower back pain. This is an incredibly widespread ailment with no hard fix. A chiro adjustment offers a little pain relief. A massage or hypnosis or a blow job would probably perform as well in a blind trial.
What has happened is that a whole universe of quacks has taken advantage of the fact that chiro is unregulated to get all manner of shit paid for by instance. There are chiropractors who will “cure” your allergies by adjusting you back while you hold a bag of weeds, “aligning your energy with the energy of the plant.” And a million other similar quack bullshit things.
So yes, it’s not as if there is no case ever where chiro does anything. It’s probably about half as effective as a single ibuprofen at alleviating back pain. But it has become overwhelmed by quackery and fraud. Please tell me with a straight face that there is no fraud in the medical insurance area. Because that’s kind of what you keep saying. “Well insurance pays for it so that means it must be efficacious!”
no i’m saying that insurance has nothing to do with what i’m saying… government provided healthcare follows a whole different set of rules: i keep pushing back on that point and you keep bringing up insurance, which i agree would show absolutely nothing
however anything that has the government paying for it has has to pass significant hurdles before it gets added to the list of approved treatments - scientific hurdles; not just hand wavy nonsense
chiro might be unregulated where you are, but in australia it is regulated as a medical profession: https://www.chiropracticboard.gov.au/ which is part of AHPRA - the australian health practitioner regulation agency: https://www.ahpra.gov.au/