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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/45061709

There are at least a dozen people spending at least several hours attacking GrapheneOS across platforms on a daily basis. It's a very strange situation. How do these people have so much time and dedication to keep making posts across platforms attacking us? It's relentless.

Every day, dozens of new accounts join our chat rooms to spread the same fabrications about GrapheneOS including via direct messages.

On Hacker News, one of the accounts making personal attacks based on fabrications in most threads about GrapheneOS has been doing it for 8 years.

Y Combinator has a financial stake in numerous surveillance and exploit development companies. Hacker News is a platform they own and the moderators on it have permitted years of vile harassment towards our team which they'd normally remove if others were targeted.

Hacker News mods micromanage it enough to repeatedly ask us not to reuse a bit of text across our comments. Meanwhile, they do nothing about disgusting personal attacks and harassment content consistently being spread in threads about GrapheneOS on their heavily moderated site.

The largest privacy community on Reddit /r/privacy bans any discussion or mentions of GrapheneOS. A bot automatically removes any post mentioning GrapheneOS they'll very actively ban people who evade their filters. The mods of the subreddit misrepresent this as something we want.

Many privacy subreddits have mods who are hostile towards GrapheneOS. We were banned from posting on /r/Android for multiple years. The mod who banned us said our official project account on Reddit was ban evading because they once unjustifiably banned one of our team members.

On Wikipedia, a company attacking GrapheneOS project made years of edits to the site pushing false narratives about us. They cited articles based on their own press releases. Other content was made paraphrasing Wikipedia which ended up being cited by it. It continues to this day.

Articles about GrapheneOS on most platforms often have comments engaging in baseless personal attacks towards our team, linking to harassment content and making many clearly inaccurate claims about it. We've found chat rooms coordinating this including attacks on the X platform.

Privacy projects are more vulnerable to these attacks because the userbase and supporters largely avoid social media and other platforms where it happens. Many people believe what they read on social media if it isn't countered and it builds echo chambers hostile to GrapheneOS.

Many people think these must be state sponsored attacks. However, our experience is these attacks are primarily orchestrated by companies selling dubious products marketed as private and secure. We did get targeted by state sponsored smear campaigns in France and Spain though.

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[–] mistermodal@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're literally talking shit about them right now, and promoting a goddanged youtube channel like I'm going to actually switch my audio track away from music so that a guy can complain in my headphones, or something. I could not give a fuck about >86% of what you just typed if someone put a gun in my mouth. This is how people who wish they could be in court but would get smoked talk. Publishing information about people's attacks on you is called a response, which is allowed IMO. I'll permit it! People online aren't your students hitting each other. Pretending it's their problem because you made it your problem with them is mindboggling to me. Better listening material for you, while we're posting You Tubes: Popol Vuh – In den Gärten Pharaos.

The optics of silence in the face of your critics is... what? In other words, I rebuke you demon

[–] PiraHxCx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Publishing information about people’s attacks on you is called a response

That's exactly what those two videos are about, they are responses. If you could not give a fuck, then why again are you posting the drama here?

[–] mistermodal@lemmy.ml 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
  1. I don't need to listen to someone talking about why it's bad to respond to critics because of the optics. Framing is dumb. Tech youtubers are awful and the good ones get banned. 2. I said I could not give a fuck about what you just said. Having fun and playing online is a priority. Not doing what random people say like WATCH MY YOUTUBES.
[–] PiraHxCx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Watch responses*
That unlike Micay claims, are full of screenshots showing the real conversations and what that guy that accuses everyone of persecuting him actually does (there is even a hilarious screenshot of a dev acc on their matrix chat telling people to use voip to create Twitter accs to harass another project and if they don't they would get banned from the chat... shit they accuse other projects of doing lol), all their claims of persecution by techlore was because they did one benchmark video where they recommended GrapheneOS over CalyxOS despite CalyxOS performing better for not being so hardened, but somehow they went mental and called the video slander campaign trying to destroy their project and shit... but it's your choice to stay ignorant and bring the drama that guy causes for... I have no idea what for, probably just ignorance, because those familiar with his history know it's all bullshit. Have a fun life.

[–] mistermodal@lemmy.ml 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Yeah have fun in Techlore's Youtube comments. You should have more luck finding people who will sit through your heckin drama Youtube videos in their comments. You are a Keemstar iPad baby to me.