Proposing to license users so they know the road rules to me makes sense to keep everyone safe. Else well have a tonne of 14 year olds with no understanding of road rules riding (unlimited) amongst cars. Also consider top speeds today will only increase tomorrow, it's likely we aren't far off these bikes getting to actual car like speeds.

Kids can ride ebikes to school, yes, speed limited and on the footpaths.

Yes you will be speed limited on footpaths, because it's dangerous having unlimited speed bikes and scooters hooning past mostly walking traffic, and when sharing the footpath, they'll still be traveling double what most people walk.

I agree that there's a lot of people that ride considerately, slowing down in high ped traffic areas and only accelerating when its safe to do so. However for each of them there's 3 absolute fkwits who speed through plazas and on narrow walkways whilst pedestrians dart out of the way. Unfortunately society can only walk as fast as our slowest person, which in this case is these fkwits.

It's the same reason we have ridiculous car speed limits in some areas, most will go 'this is a bit dangerous I should slow down a bit' whilst one idiot will accelerate to 80km/h in the wet and take out a young family.

[–] Zagorath@quokk.au 8 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Because those scooters flying past at 40 km/h were already illegal. The police just can't be bothered enforcing it.

The only people this new law is actually going to affect are those who are doing the right thing.

Kids can ride ebikes to school, yes, speed limited

Speed limited to the point that it's absolutely useless. Speeds that you can easily exceed on foot.

And paths that are officially footpaths and shared paths make up over 90% of Brisbane's "bicycle paths". This isn't restricted to highly pedestrianised areas. It's most places people are tryijg to ride their bikes.

[–] ForgottenUsername@lemmy.world -3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Correct and because they can't patrol it they are building a new way to force compliance.

The people currently doing the wrong thing through rentals etc will now not have the ability to break the law. And a lot of the hoons I see now are on these rentals, much less are on thier own gear.

And mate your stretching the truth there (almost as much a Murdoch media) people cannot walk at 10km/h. People typically walk at like 4 mabes 5km/h, not the 11+ km/h you are alleging.

And I think we're just gonna have to agree to disagree here, I see your point about 90% of this is footpaths, but in my view that supports this legislation, these are FOOTpaths ie holding pedestrian traffic, the vast majority of the time your gonna encounter someone walking to the bus, or carrying some groceries home on this footpaths, strolling at a casual pace and they don't deserve to have some escooter, without notice, wipe them out.

[–] Zagorath@quokk.au 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

people cannot walk at 10km/h

I didn't say otherwise. I said "on foot". Reinforcing the point from my post that it is a slow jogging pace.

90% of Brisbane's bike paths are technically not classified as bike paths, but footpaths or shared paths. That's paths like the Deagon Deviation Bikeway, significant parts of the North Brisbane Bikeway, the Cabbage Tree Creek Bikeway. These are called bikeways and are intended for use by bikes. But this shitty authoritarian pro-car law will effectively bar bikes from being ridden on bikeways.

And for what? Because they can't be fucked actually dealing with the people riding electric motorbikes at above 25 km/h using a throttle using the laws that are already in place. It's fucking stupid. And it's indefensible. The best that could be said about it is that it's fearmongering intended to sucker idiots in to supporting their anti-bike agenda.

[–] ForgottenUsername@lemmy.world -1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

All I'll say to this is that on foot is primarily walking.

Will you come across some runners sure, but get out there and count them. You'll be suprised at how outnumbered they are compared to walkers.

But you live in your little circle where you scream at the government going this is BS, because some pedestrians run these rules are wrong. Ignoring the vast vast vast majority that are walking and slow, sometimes elderly and wobble on thier feet, sometimes pushing a pram or herding little kids, let me speed past them as fast as I can.

And regarding the bikeways, they've said there is provision to increase speed limits on some ways these will be updated and you won't have to do 10km/h on them.

Your arguments are the exact argument that motorists that ride cyclists off the road use. You are litterally in the same camp as them, I wanna go as fast as I want and no ~~cyclist~~ pedestrian is gonna get in my way. Stop fearmongering and share the footpaths.