We're not able to move posts to another community at the moment, but we're thinking of locking posts that should be in !politics and asking the OP to cross-post them there. Do you think this is the best approach?

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[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

What about if !politics is used for government-related posts.

Teachers negotiating with government, policy changes for surgeons out of the control of the surgeons themselves, ETS, parliament protest, RNZ tankie issue (not related to our government but fully political in it's own right), these would go in !politics.

All Whites abuse, teacher being a dick, migrant workers being exploited, Mongrel Mob charges - these would go in !newzealand as their relationship to the government is not central to the article.

I also hear concern about the lock-and-crosspost idea. Perhaps when it's not black and white, this is an encouraged split rather than an enforced one?

[–] RaoulDuke@lemmy.nz 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

their relationship to the government is not central to the article.

This is a good place to draw the line, in my opinion. I mean, what is "central" might be up for debate. But it's still a good guide. I'd categorise the articles the same as you.

And I think we leave it as a recommendation unless something seems obviously out of place at the moment.

(I just realised I didn't actually submit this comment last night)

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe we could write a post to help people decide which community to put an article in, but not be too strict on enforcing it?

[–] RaoulDuke@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 years ago

I think this is the best option. We've had the full range of answers, from none of them are political to all of them are, and everything in between. And I don't think there's much appetite for locking posts, etc. at this stage.

[–] SamC@lemmy.nz 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I guess that could work, although I'd say the RNZ tankie story is no more or less political than the other stories you say can go in the NZ community.

And yeah, I think worth trying it as a guideline rather than a rule, and seeing what happens.

Another option (which creates more fragmentation) is to have a "NZ news" community, where news posts are allowed, then ban all news posts (i.e. new stories from the main outlets) from the NZ community. Then you don't have to worry so much about what counts as political.

I guess Reddit-style post flairs would sort out a lot of this, but am guessing that's a fair way down the roadmap.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm just not sure what would go in !newzealand if the news all got kicked out!

[–] SamC@lemmy.nz 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Agreed (which I mentioned in a previous post). The alternative is to have "NZ casual" (or whatever you want to call it). So people not interested in the "harder" stuff can sub to that.

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm not keen on more communities right now. We just don't have the user base.

[–] SamC@lemmy.nz 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I agree, but just suggesting it as a solution to people who don't like a lot of the posts currently allowed in c/NZ.