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[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Spotify are paying musixmatch for the lyrics.

musixmatch didn't create the content either.

[-] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Irrelevant. It’s up to musixmatch to pay the creators or supplier of their content, not Spotify.

[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Ah, the buygamekeys .ru approach.

[-] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

It’s not up to Spotify to pay the wages of the company that provides a paid service to them.

[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Just to sell stolen goods, huh?

[-] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Stolen? Who stole the lyrics?

[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Anyone extracting rents on gatekeeping access to them.

[-] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No one is gathering access to lyrics.

Who “stole“ something here, and from who?

[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

No one is gathering access to lyrics.

I never said they were. The verb I used was gatekeeping.

You know, like how Spotify locks access to them behind a paywall. The exact thing I just described.

[-] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Autocorrect sorry, supposed to be gate keeping.

Spotify isn’t gate keeping access to the lyrics - you’re free to look them up on musixmatch or any of the other lyric sites and services. They’ve simply added them to their subscription services. You don’t know what gate keeping means.

You also still haven’t answer how anyone “stole” anything? Who stole what and from who?

[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Spotify isn’t gate keeping access to the lyrics

"If you pay us, you can see this. If you don't, you cannot see it."

Now who doesn't know what gatekeeping is?

You also still haven’t answer how anyone “stole” anything?

I have. Multiple times.

[-] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

So every product on the market is gate keeping?

[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

How is freely copyable information no one who is profiting from wrote or transcribed a product?
It's rent-seeking and it's gross.

[-] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Spotify don’t just sell lyrics lol. The lyrics are just another of the features that require premium.

[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Right. They gatekeep them behind a paywall. This is like the forth time we've been over this.

They are engaged in rentseeking behavior and that is wrong.

[-] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

"rentseeking behaviour" is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard used to describe a subscription service.

Is that all this is - you dislike subscription services?

They can't gatekeep something that is available freely and easily outside of their service. They're putting their implementation of the lyrics being matched to the music inside their subscription service. That's not "gatekeeping".

You still haven't explained how anyone "stole" anything either.

[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

They can’t gatekeep something that is available freely and easily outside of their service.

Can you see what they are there if you don't pay them? Do I need to explain a 6th time what gatekeeping is?

You still haven’t explained how anyone “stole” anything either.

Yes I have. You just keep ignoring everything I say.

[-] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Yes I have. You just keep ignoring everything I say.

You haven't, so do it in reply to this. Who stole what from who?

Do I need to explain a 6th time what gatekeeping is?

I think you need someone to explain what it is to you tbh lol. Like I said, is this just you thinking that all subscription services are bad and "gate keeping"? Do you think needing to buy a ticket to go to a theme park is "gatekeeping"?

[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

What part of gatekeeping access are you not able to wrap your head around and how many times do I need to explain profiting off uncompensated labor?

[-] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Who is profiting off uncompensated labor? Who stole what from who? You keep dodging the questions lol.

Spotify pay Musixmatch for lyrics. Spotify are paying for a service. If Musixmatch are "stealing" lyrics from somewhere that's not Spotify's problem.

Do you just believe that ALL subscriptions and payments to access something are "gatekeeping" behaviour? Answer the question. Is a movie theatre requiring you to buy a ticket before you can see the movie "gatekeeping" and bad? Is having to pay to watch netflix "gatekeeping"?

This is getting unbelievable in how much you are dancing around answering any questions about your crazy train of thought.

[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

And how do you think axes get sharpened?

Whetstones! And you can't just smash a bat into a berry barn.
The edge is what gives axes ...pardon the expression... edge!

So if the gravy thickens what are you going to do with that apretrieaour of yours?

I hope you got some long-term strategy for weevils.

[-] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

So you're ...... not........ going to answer the simple questions?

[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

And then you gotta talk about giant squids.

Them things is huuuuuuuuuuge. Like you can fit two regular size squids inside one and the big ones at that.

All wriggly and covered in equal parts suckers and slime.

Life is like that, my friend. You got all sorts of movement in it and it's trying to slip away from you AS (get is? as) it grips onto you.

Them suckers is painful too, because they got fish hooks in them. Squid fish hooks are natures fish hooks, that's why they used to use them as fish hooks.

Of course they had to catch the squid to cut its arms up and once they managed that no one wanted to use the hooks anymore as they had just went through the trouble of inventing a non-hook-related method of catching sealife.

And life is like that, friend.

[-] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago
[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

And that's ANOTHER thing. You never cleaned the cheesewheel from the hampster aerdrion valtrex.

Why won't you address the cruise boat missive ?

Right, your moral cowardice.

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